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Re: Confession and scrupulosity
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2021, 01:03:29 AM »
Nope, that's plenty.  Kind of sin and number are all that are required.  Unless there are particular circuмstances which change the nature of the sin, they are superfluous.

So, with this example, if your "bad-mouthing" involved calumny or detraction, then that would be detraction and calumny.  But if it's something short of that, such as "boy he gives lousy sermons" or "that priest has a bad temper" or "I really don't like him." ... which is typically what is meant by bad-mouthing rather than "this priest is having an affair with a female parishioner".
The person I was talking to said he didn't trust the priest and I told him I felt the same way, that I didn't trust the priest at a certain level and that if I had to confess certain types of things I would go find a different priest.  Not like I was just randomly speculating I have my reasons for feeling that way, and I actually have gone to other priests to do more general confessions.  While I didn't explicitly mean it in such a way as that I the priest would break his seal, but thinking back that's pretty much how the conversation went down.

Re: Confession and scrupulosity
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2021, 11:57:42 AM »
This book would be of help to you OP. (I wasn't able to find an e-copy)
https://www.traditionalcatholicpublishing.com/confession-made-easy.html
Fructuosus Hockenmaier.  Now I know what I'm going to name my next son, should I ever have one :jester:  (Don't laugh --- my wife could die, I could win the lottery, I'm not dead yet, and I could meet some sweet young traditional Catholic lass and have the mega-family that should be every Catholic man's ideal.  Age ain't nothing but a number.)

But seriously.  This book has a 1910 imprimatur.  Modern Newchurch Catholics (after a fashion) wouldn't know the difference between mortal and venial sin if it bit them on the butt.  I haven't read the book, never heard of it, but given the date of the imprimatur, I have to think large portions of it would fly right over their heads.  They have some vague notion of "grave" sin, which term is so misused that it has come, to some of a more serious bent, to mean any sin at all. 

I'd say just to find a traditional confessor, let him take you by the hand (metaphorically speaking), and go from there.  Stick with one confessor if you can.


Re: Confession and scrupulosity
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2021, 11:58:57 AM »

What the... ???

What does this have to do with the discussion?

I'm reminded here of the scene from Mrs Doubtfire where the Robin Williams character was showing a bit of skin on his hairy leg, and the bus driver said that's what I like, a woman who looks the way God made her.  Thirty years ago in Poland (can't speak for nowadays), you would have gotten quite an eyeful of such hirsuteness at the town market.

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Re: Confession and scrupulosity
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2021, 12:11:47 PM »
Fructuosus Hockenmaier.  Now I know what I'm going to name my next son, should I ever have one :jester:  (Don't laugh --- my wife could die, I could win the lottery, I'm not dead yet, and I could meet some sweet young traditional Catholic lass and have the mega-family that should be every Catholic man's ideal.  Age ain't nothing but a number.)

But seriously.  This book has a 1910 imprimatur.  Modern Newchurch Catholics (after a fashion) wouldn't know the difference between mortal and venial sin if it bit them on the butt.  I haven't read the book, never heard of it, but given the date of the imprimatur, I have to think large portions of it would fly right over their heads.  They have some vague notion of "grave" sin, which term is so misused that it has come, to some of a more serious bent, to mean any sin at all.  

I'd say just to find a traditional confessor, let him take you by the hand (metaphorically speaking), and go from there.  Stick with one confessor if you can.
It's a good book, written in a very accessible style. I often dip into it randomly before confession. It's a mystery to me why someone hasn't posted a pdf of it online. I'm not an expert, but any copyright should be expired by now.

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Re: Confession and scrupulosity
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2021, 12:19:00 PM »
What the... ???

What does this have to do with the discussion?

I'm reminded here of the scene from Mrs Doubtfire where the Robin Williams character was showing a bit of skin on his hairy leg, and the bus driver said that's what I like, a woman who looks the way God made her.  Thirty years ago in Poland (can't speak for nowadays), you would have gotten quite an eyeful of such hirsuteness at the town market.
I'm pretty sure the poster (not me) meant to put that picture in this thread:
https://www.cathinfo.com/teen-catholic-hangout/warning-about-gender-neutral-toy/msg754264/#msg754264