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Änσnymσus

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Confession and scrupulosity
« on: June 21, 2021, 04:45:02 AM »
I just made a general confession to a visiting priest who was kind enough to hear me because I was concerned that I almost certainly have made bad confessions in the past due to carelessness in the past to the regular parish priest and was worried that many things I confessed in the past weren't absolved. The visiting priest was very kind and understanding. 

I know that if you accidentally forget something in confession, the confession is still valid and you should confess what you remember the next time but, having scrupulosity and this being a general confession, I was still a bit nervous during confession and ended up only realizing later that I unintentionally misarticulated a few things:

For example, thinking back, I think I committed certain a sin only once but the way I worded it implied it happened more than once (as I couldn't remember with certainty) and I think in one instance the priest may not have entirely understood precisely what I was confessing though I tried to elaborate as best as I could and, likewise, in other instances he may not have understood what I meant but didn't ask for further elaboration. 

In any case, I still had proper intention of confessing everything that I could remember and firm purpose of amendment. Did I still make a good confession? The priest whom I made the general confession to basically told me not to worry about confessing any past sins and just focus on the future, echoing what the regular parish priest has told me previously. Ideally, I would like to rectify these issues in my next confession since I want to make absolutely sure I did it properly so as not to commit a sacrilege by omitting anything and receiving Holy Communion unworthily but, I understand why the priests are telling me not worry about confessing any past sins going forward due to the scrupulosity. Still, I struggle with intrusive thoughts such as this.

I'm just curious if anyone could provide me with some further insight or perhaps some material that could help me with scrupulosity. Thanks.

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Re: Confession and scrupulosity
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2021, 05:49:34 AM »
Even though this is a recently published book, it should prove to be very helpful.

https://loretopubs.org/ebook-scruples-and-sainthood-overcoming-scrupulosity-with-the-help-of-the-saints.html


Offline Matthew

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Re: Confession and scrupulosity
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2021, 08:21:46 AM »
You mentioned your "parish priest" -- if you are attending an Indult or even worse a Novus Ordo parish, you need to read up more on the Crisis in the Church.

With the Crisis in the Church, the state of the Church today, you should ONLY be attending Mass at some kind of "lifeboat" chapel, nothing accepted by Rome. Rome is modernist and could be argued to be schismatic -- they went into schism from the true Faith at Vatican II. It's basically a new religion. You can't have anything to do with that new religion.

The Catholic Faith, practiced by the Saints through the ages up till Vatican 2, and the new Conciliar Religion that was born at Vatican II, are irreconcilable. They blend together, or are compatible with each other, about as well as God and the devil.

Any priests who are "OK" with that new religion are inherently compromised, and will give you horrible advice, tainted sermons, etc.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Confession and scrupulosity
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2021, 09:35:18 AM »
Assuming this was a valid priest, unless you INTENTIONALLY hid or distorted something, the Confession was valid.  Just try to rectify the situation at your next Confession.  "Father, during my last Confession, I made a general.  I said that .... but what I really meant to get across was ....  I didn't misstate this intentionally."

Not a big deal.  I've done this regularly, where I forgot something and then added it in the next Confession.  Unless you FULLY DELIBERATELY intended to obscure something.  Now, that's where the issue of scrupulosity really rears its ugly head.  You start to question yourself whether it was "deliberate" where any movement of the mind, any idle thought that pops into your head, gets conflated with an act of the will.

If you're genuinely scrupulous, the advice of my own Confessor at seminary would apply.  He instantly cured me of scruples by basically commanding me to not confess anything as mortal sin unless I could basically swear to God that it WAS in fact a mortal sin.  I believe the system of "probabilism" serves the scrupulous very well (though it would be a huge mistake to allow the lax to apply it, IMO).  St. Alphonsus taught a probabilistic system, but then modified it a little bit later (after taking some criticism) into more of a semi-probabilist opinion.  But what's ironic is that probabilism is probable, so it's not generally forbidden to use the system :-)

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Re: Confession and scrupulosity
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2021, 10:09:34 AM »
Some general comments:

1) Unlike a particular (ie., regular) confession, it is not necessary to confess all your sins in a general confession, if you have already confessed them before.  Some people use a general confession just to confess a handful of their most humiliating or most serious lifetime sins;

2) General confessions and retreats are not for the scrupulous.  They are great for normal souls, but for the scrupulous are like picking scabs.  

3) “God reads crooked minds straight.”  You did your part.