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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2021, 09:57:40 PM »
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  • Confession is not meant to be torture but the application of mercy to us. If you're second guessing and your confessor told you not to do so let it go. You are supposed to be at peace after confession.


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    it is not necessary to confess all your sins in a general confession, if you have already confessed them before. 
    See above.  You've confessed your sins already.  Maybe you forgot some details.  Then you did a general confession, which covers all your past.  You don’t need to confess them a third time.  Listen to your confessors and concentrate on pleasing God now. The past is over. 


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    Re: Confession and scrupulosity
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  • This book would be of help to you OP. (I wasn't able to find an e-copy)
    https://www.traditionalcatholicpublishing.com/confession-made-easy.html

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    « Reply #19 on: June 22, 2021, 10:54:50 AM »
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  • This book would be of help to you OP. (I wasn't able to find an e-copy)
    https://www.traditionalcatholicpublishing.com/confession-made-easy.html
    If money is really tight for you, reply and I will figure out a way to pay for it anonymously.


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    « Reply #20 on: June 23, 2021, 01:03:29 AM »
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  • Nope, that's plenty.  Kind of sin and number are all that are required.  Unless there are particular circuмstances which change the nature of the sin, they are superfluous.

    So, with this example, if your "bad-mouthing" involved calumny or detraction, then that would be detraction and calumny.  But if it's something short of that, such as "boy he gives lousy sermons" or "that priest has a bad temper" or "I really don't like him." ... which is typically what is meant by bad-mouthing rather than "this priest is having an affair with a female parishioner".
    The person I was talking to said he didn't trust the priest and I told him I felt the same way, that I didn't trust the priest at a certain level and that if I had to confess certain types of things I would go find a different priest.  Not like I was just randomly speculating I have my reasons for feeling that way, and I actually have gone to other priests to do more general confessions.  While I didn't explicitly mean it in such a way as that I the priest would break his seal, but thinking back that's pretty much how the conversation went down.

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    Re: Confession and scrupulosity
    « Reply #21 on: June 23, 2021, 11:57:42 AM »
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  • This book would be of help to you OP. (I wasn't able to find an e-copy)
    https://www.traditionalcatholicpublishing.com/confession-made-easy.html
    Fructuosus Hockenmaier.  Now I know what I'm going to name my next son, should I ever have one :jester:  (Don't laugh --- my wife could die, I could win the lottery, I'm not dead yet, and I could meet some sweet young traditional Catholic lass and have the mega-family that should be every Catholic man's ideal.  Age ain't nothing but a number.)

    But seriously.  This book has a 1910 imprimatur.  Modern Newchurch Catholics (after a fashion) wouldn't know the difference between mortal and venial sin if it bit them on the butt.  I haven't read the book, never heard of it, but given the date of the imprimatur, I have to think large portions of it would fly right over their heads.  They have some vague notion of "grave" sin, which term is so misused that it has come, to some of a more serious bent, to mean any sin at all. 

    I'd say just to find a traditional confessor, let him take you by the hand (metaphorically speaking), and go from there.  Stick with one confessor if you can.

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    Re: Confession and scrupulosity
    « Reply #22 on: June 23, 2021, 11:58:57 AM »
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  • What the... ???

    What does this have to do with the discussion?

    I'm reminded here of the scene from Mrs Doubtfire where the Robin Williams character was showing a bit of skin on his hairy leg, and the bus driver said that's what I like, a woman who looks the way God made her.  Thirty years ago in Poland (can't speak for nowadays), you would have gotten quite an eyeful of such hirsuteness at the town market.


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  • Fructuosus Hockenmaier.  Now I know what I'm going to name my next son, should I ever have one :jester:  (Don't laugh --- my wife could die, I could win the lottery, I'm not dead yet, and I could meet some sweet young traditional Catholic lass and have the mega-family that should be every Catholic man's ideal.  Age ain't nothing but a number.)

    But seriously.  This book has a 1910 imprimatur.  Modern Newchurch Catholics (after a fashion) wouldn't know the difference between mortal and venial sin if it bit them on the butt.  I haven't read the book, never heard of it, but given the date of the imprimatur, I have to think large portions of it would fly right over their heads.  They have some vague notion of "grave" sin, which term is so misused that it has come, to some of a more serious bent, to mean any sin at all.  

    I'd say just to find a traditional confessor, let him take you by the hand (metaphorically speaking), and go from there.  Stick with one confessor if you can.
    It's a good book, written in a very accessible style. I often dip into it randomly before confession. It's a mystery to me why someone hasn't posted a pdf of it online. I'm not an expert, but any copyright should be expired by now.

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    Re: Confession and scrupulosity
    « Reply #24 on: June 23, 2021, 12:19:00 PM »
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  • What the... ???

    What does this have to do with the discussion?

    I'm reminded here of the scene from Mrs Doubtfire where the Robin Williams character was showing a bit of skin on his hairy leg, and the bus driver said that's what I like, a woman who looks the way God made her.  Thirty years ago in Poland (can't speak for nowadays), you would have gotten quite an eyeful of such hirsuteness at the town market.
    I'm pretty sure the poster (not me) meant to put that picture in this thread:
    https://www.cathinfo.com/teen-catholic-hangout/warning-about-gender-neutral-toy/msg754264/#msg754264

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    Re: Confession and scrupulosity
    « Reply #25 on: June 23, 2021, 08:57:16 PM »
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  • It's a good book, written in a very accessible style. I often dip into it randomly before confession. It's a mystery to me why someone hasn't posted a pdf of it online. I'm not an expert, but any copyright should be expired by now.
    Okay, that's fine, sin is a perennial, right and wrong never changes.  I'll take a look at it, if I can find a PDF or similar.


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    Re: Confession and scrupulosity
    « Reply #26 on: June 24, 2021, 09:16:31 AM »
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  • It's a good book, written in a very accessible style. I often dip into it randomly before confession. It's a mystery to me why someone hasn't posted a pdf of it online. I'm not an expert, but any copyright should be expired by now.
    I think one should consider the intent of the author, he wrote the book to help save souls not to earn money.  If he could have given it away for free at the time I'm sure he would have.  

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    « Reply #27 on: June 24, 2021, 11:02:51 AM »
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  • I think one should consider the intent of the author, he wrote the book to help save souls not to earn money.  If he could have given it away for free at the time I'm sure he would have.  
    :confused:

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    « Reply #28 on: June 24, 2021, 11:36:30 AM »
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  • I think one should consider the intent of the author, he wrote the book to help save souls not to earn money.  If he could have given it away for free at the time I'm sure he would have.  
    I think I understand what you are getting at; Fr. Hockenmeier wouldn't object to it being distributed for free.
    I did a bit of research and the first and second editions are out of copyright protection, so anyone could post a copy online without legal repercussions.

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    « Reply #29 on: June 24, 2021, 12:05:36 PM »
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    1) Unlike a particular (ie., regular) confession, it is not necessary to confess all your sins in a general confession, if you have already confessed them before.  Some people use a general confession just to confess a handful of their most humiliating or most serious lifetime sins;


    This is not correct.  The first general confession must be for sins committed since attaining the age of reason or since baptism.  Any general confessions after that should begin with sins committed since the previous general confession.
    You cannot just "pick and choose" during a general confession.  Otherwise, this is simply a normal confession where you are confessing some past sins.