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Offline Fifteen Decades Daily

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Re: Traditional Catholic AA
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2025, 04:17:07 PM »
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  • When I had a near-death experience related to my alcohol use, I initially sought help from women-only groups. They were, to a man, infested with feminists and yoganauts. Although, to be fair, some of them had many helpful tips and insights.

    The keyword for those babes is Empowerment. If God wills, I'd like either to form a group or write a piece on the Blessed Virgin Mary as the most empowered woman in history. She can help with addiction and with recovery from feminism. She is after all, Virgo Potens, Virgin Most Powerful.
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    Re: Traditional Catholic AA
    « Reply #31 on: April 29, 2025, 09:23:23 PM »
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  • I have been sober over 12 years in AA. I certainly wouldn't be Catholic without AA and I'd probably be dead in hell for all eternity. It will introduce a person to many opportunities for corporal and spiritual works of mercy. For anyone with a drinking problem feel free to PM me.


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    Re: Traditional Catholic AA
    « Reply #32 on: April 29, 2025, 09:39:10 PM »
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  • I have never been drunk in my life. Thank God my bad habits are of another kind, but you people should be careful to give extreme, puritanical advices like some in this thread. Alcoholism destroys lives and families. AA is not sinful per se, as far as I know, so let people do whatever they need to stay sober, as long as it is not sinful. Not everything that is secular is bad.

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    Re: Traditional Catholic AA
    « Reply #33 on: April 29, 2025, 10:20:01 PM »
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  • In Louisville, Ky, for instance, there are 400-500 A.A. meetings a week.  Some of you in this thread say, "all A.A. meetings are immoral...blah, blah, blah."   I know a guy who got sober in 1961, and at the time there were 17 A.A. meetings in the Louisville area.  Are you telling me that A.A. meetings were immoral in 1961. Absolute rubbish.   Are there people in A.A. who blaspheme, fornicate, etc.?  Absolutely.  Are there traditional Catholics in A.A. who do not do these things?  Absolutely.  What is the point here?  It is completely illogical to demean an organization because some of its members are immoral.  If the truth be told the majority of baptized Catholics in America are immoral.  Does this mean that I should not become a Catholic because the majority of its members are immoral?  

    A.A. in its own literature does not promote any religion and its sole purpose is to "help alcoholics achieve sobriety."  And besides each A.A. meeting is "autonomous" meaning that the homegroup members of that particular meeting can establish rules particular to that meeting. You can have a meeting with "no cussing," "men only," "women only," "a shirt and tie meeting," etc.  If you want a little A.A. history, there was a meeting in the 60's where they actually had a beer machine.  Put your money in and get a beer.  Some alcoholics wrote to New York City (headquarters) and said, "We do not think that an A.A. meeting should be serving beer."  Central Office replied, "While we do not recommend that an A.A. meeting should serve beer, however, each A.A. group is autonomous and can create its own rules so long as it does not violate A.A.'s Traditions."  


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    Re: Traditional Catholic AA
    « Reply #34 on: May 07, 2025, 03:16:51 PM »
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  • Two years alcohol-free, Deo gratias.

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    Re: Traditional Catholic AA
    « Reply #35 on: May 07, 2025, 03:33:04 PM »
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  • Two years alcohol-free, Deo gratias.

    Myth: Introvert plus alcohol = Extrovert
    Reality: Introvert plus alcohol = Drunk Introvert
    Congratulations! :pray:
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    Re: Traditional Catholic AA
    « Reply #36 on: May 07, 2025, 03:37:47 PM »
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  • Two years alcohol-free, Deo gratias.

    Myth: Introvert plus alcohol = Extrovert
    Reality: Introvert plus alcohol = Drunk Introvert

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    Re: Traditional Catholic AA
    « Reply #37 on: May 07, 2025, 04:18:36 PM »
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  • Two years alcohol-free, Deo gratias.

    Myth: Introvert plus alcohol = Extrovert
    Reality: Introvert plus alcohol = Drunk Introvert

    Reality ... depends on the individual.  Just like there are "angry drunks", so too there are some "happy drunks".  I've known people who were quiet / introverted and who came out of their shell with some alcohol, but others who did not.

    But congratulatoins on the sobriety.  Alcoholism is not something I completely understand but I do know people who have what's referred to as an "addictive personality" which I imagine might be related to why it has that effect on some but not on others.


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    Re: Traditional Catholic AA
    « Reply #38 on: May 07, 2025, 04:54:07 PM »
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  • The definition of allergy is, "Any food, drink, or other substance which I put in my body which causes an abnormal reaction."  The normal drinker drinks a couple of drinks in the evening and goes to bed because he gets drowsy - alcohol is a depressant.  The abnormal drinker, the alcoholic, consumes alcohol and it produces the phenomena of craving.  Alcohol for the alcoholic does not act like a depressant, but a stimulant.  Dr. William Silkworth, in the 1930's, was the first American physician to identify alcoholism as an allergy, and, I concur, he is right.
    My brother was an alcoholic before he died because of it.  During his years of being drunk the family tried everything short of kidnapping and confining him.  He was a high executive while he was still functioning.

    I read everything I could get my hands on regarding alcohol addition, especially how it runs in families.
    Long story short I agree there is hard evidence that it could be an allergy for a great number of people.
    I personally traced at least 20 people who were severely heavy drinkers and all 20 were Blood type O.
    This particular blood type is very frequently allergic to... grain.
    P.S.  Alanon was a joke.