Author Topic: Urrutigoity Argentina (Read 10910 times)

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #45 on:** April 17, 2015, 03:39:03 PM »

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Who is "LF"?
Why is Claudel accused of being novus ordo?
I don't understand this thread.

Neither do I. I agree with Matthew and wallflower.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #46 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:17:57 PM »

Before sinners receive God's mercy and forgiveness, they must repent.

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Änσnymσus · « **Reply #47 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:25:10 PM »

Same sex marriage is being supported by CINOs.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #48 on:** May 15, 2015, 10:41:23 AM »

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Before sinners receive God's mercy and forgiveness, they must repent.

Why would this be down thumbed?

Many in the novus ordo church would not believe that there beloved priest would do such things.
Recent, in Ireland, the novus ordo laity gave a priest standing ovation after he announced during the mess service he was a practicing sodomists.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #49 on:** May 15, 2015, 10:44:46 AM »

Parents keep an eye your children.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #50 on:** May 15, 2015, 07:18:14 PM »

Douay-Rheims Bible
Having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their hearts.
That is many of you.

"All the evils in the world are due to lukewarm Catholics" Pope Pius V.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #51 on:** May 29, 2015, 10:53:05 AM »

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Just remember that reading sordid histories like this has the "Unsolved Mysteries" effect -- that is, as you read the opening words, you already know something bad is going to happen. The whole thing is 100% hindsight, which is always 20/20.

Has anyone here watched Unsolved Mysteries? When you see the woman dating the man (who you know turned out to be a kidnapper/murderer/etc.) you're thinking to yourself "what an idiot to date a murderer! How could she be so stupid?" Well, you see, he wasn't a murderer at the time. She didn't pick a guy from "Unsolved Mysteries" to date; it was a man she met at church or the local coffee shop. We're watching Unsolved Mysteries years after the event with complete hindsight, which sees things clearly and perfectly.

Likewise, I found it interesting that Urrutigoity took advantage of a Sede faction to mask his activities. There were 2 main factions in the South American district that were so separate, they didn't even speak to each other. There was so much mistrust, that it was easy to pass off the (true) allegations of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ behavior on the part of Urrutigoity as "slander from those darn sedes!" and the other side, who disliked the sede faction, was quick to believe it! Yes, you are right. They do.

Urrutigoity really does seem like a Rasputin figure. He must have had a very magnetic, powerful personality, and an intimate knowledge of human nature -- some serious people skills.

You are right. It is easy for anyone to be fooled by these perverts. They are sneaky con artists.
It is only normal for priests to try to give people a second chance to repent.
But now we know now that they can't help themselves or just refuse to repent.

The thread wasn't to target anyone but to warn. In our area, we still have predators trying to infiltrate independent chapels.

We as laity need to watch the children.

So I apologize to those who thought they were being targeted.
We all need to protect the children and take action against those in Rome who are destroying the Catholic faith.

Who would ever dream that Rome would even host a synod to cater to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #52 on:** May 29, 2015, 10:57:37 AM »

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Quote from the late Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen:

“Who is going to save our Church? Not our Bishops, not our priests and religious. It is up to the people. You have the minds, the eyes, the ears to save the Church. Your mission is to see that your priests act like priests, your bishops like bishops and your religious act like religious”

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #53 on:** April 14, 2016, 01:24:58 PM »

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This notice is to inform the Christian faithful that Virgil Bradley “Gabriel Francis” Tetherow, formerly a priest of the Diocese of Scranton, was dismissed from the clergy and returned to the lay state by the Holy Father, Pope Francis, on January 23, 2015. Mr. Tetherow was ordained a priest of the Diocese of Scranton June 29, 2002 and for one year after that was part of a private association known as the Servants Minor of Saint Francis, which was dissolved on November 17, 2003. In January 2005, Bishop Joseph F. Martino removed Mr. Tetherow from any public ministry when the Diocese of Scranton learned that he had been arrested for possession of child pornography, for which Mr. Tetherow was later sentenced to two years’ probation. Although resident in a rectory in Tobyhanna at the time, Mr. Tetherow never had a parish assignment in the Diocese of Scranton. Because he has been removed from the clerical state, Virgil Bradley “Gabriel Francis” Tetherow is forbidden to function as a priest in the Catholic Church and should no longer present himself as one.

Red flags

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #54 on:** April 14, 2016, 01:42:37 PM »

Pope fires bishop in Paraguay who sheltered accused abuser

Ines San Martin
Vatican correspondent  @inesanma

Bishop Rogelio Ricardo Livieres Plano walked to church in Ciudad del Este, Paraguay in July. (ABC, Raul Gonzalez/AP)

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By Ines San Martin
Vatican correspondent September 25, 2014
ROME — Pope Francis has fired a bishop in Paraguay who sheltered a priest accused of sɛҳuąƖ abuse of minors in the United States, though to what extent the abuse charges figured in the bishop’s ouster isn’t yet clear.

The Vatican announced Wednesday that Pope Francis has removed Bishop Rogelio Ricardo Livieres Plano as the bishop of the small diocese of Ciudad del Este in Paraguay, citing “serious pastoral reasons” and “the greater good of preserving the unity of the local church.”

Livieres Plano is associated with the abuse scandals because of his decision to welcome Fr. Carlos Urrutigoity, a fellow Argentine, into his diocese in 2003 after he left the Scranton, Pennsylvania diocese facing abuse charges.

A statement on the Scranton diocese’s web site earlier this year identified Urrutigoity as a “serious threat to young people,” yet Livieres Plano, who maintains Urrutigoity’s innocence, made him vicar general of the diocese in Paraguay, in effect his second-in-command.

Urrutigoity was named in a highly publicized abuse lawsuit in Scranton in 2002. At the time, he and another priest, Eric Ensey, were suspended by then-Bishop James Timlin amid allegations they had sɛҳuąƖly molested students at a local Catholic school. The diocese reportedly reached a $450,000 settlement in the case in 2006.

The Urrutigoity affair, however, is hardly the only aspect of Livieres Plano’s record that generated alarms in Rome.

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Born in Argentina and a member of Opus Dei, a Catholic group with a profile for being fairly conservative, Livieres Plano was also under Vatican investigation for alleged misappropriation of funds, for frayed relations with his fellow bishops in Paraguay, and for changes he decreed in the formation process for future priests.

Among other things, Livieres Plano had been at odds with fellow Paraguayan bishops for opposing the presidential candidacy of former bishop Fernando Lugo, a leftist close to the liberation theology movement in Latin America.

The disagreement between Livieres Plano and other bishops burst into public view when Archbishop Pastor Cuquejo of Asuncion, the capital of Paraguay, requested a Vatican investigation during an interview with a local radio station.

In a subsequent interview, Livieres Plano opposed bluntly, suggesting Cuquejo should “mind his own business” and openly accused Cuquejo of being ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.

Last July, Pope Francis sent Spanish Cardinal Santos Abril y Castelló and the Uruguayan Archbishop Milton Luis Tróccoli to Paraguay to investigate the diocese of Ciudad del Este.

As a precautionary measure, Livieres Plano removed Urrutigoity from his job as the diocese’s No. 2 official days before the intervention conducted by Albril y Castelló started.

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In what was perceived as an unprecedented measure, days after the investigation was over, the Vatican suspended the ordination of new priests from the seminary of Ciudad del Este, opened by Livieres Plano.

When the suspension of the ordinations was announced, Livieres Plano confirmed the Vatican’s decision stating that he had received in writing the pope’s disposition.

“It’s a precautionary move taken by the Holy Father until the situation is clarified,” he said at the time.

According to Livieres Plano, the measure followed “wrongful, unfounded and slanderous” stories told both by the Paraguayan Bishop’s Conference and the Vatican’s embassy to Paraguay.

“I will happily suspend everything he [Pope Francis] wants me to suspend, because I do what God wants and God’s spokesman is the pope,” he said.

At the moment, no declaration has been made by Livieres Plano, his diocese or the Paraguayan Bishop’s Conference, but sources close to the bishop told Crux that he’s “at ease with the announcement and has placed himself at the disposal of the Church.”

Since he wasn’t transferred but removed, he no longer serves a diocese. This places Livieres Plano in the category of “wandering bishops.”

He will be replaced by Bishop Ricardo Jorge Valenzuela.

The removal of Livieres Plano, announced by the Vatican this Thursday, follows the house arrest on Tuesday of ex-Archbishop Jozef Wesolowski. The former papal ambassador in the Dominican Republic is accused of sɛҳuąƖly abusing children and, if found guilty, could face six or seven years in a Vatican jail.

The Vatican has said Wesolowski also could be extradited to either the Dominican Republic or Poland if they make a request.

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Änσnymσus · « **Reply #55 on:** April 14, 2016, 05:49:09 PM »

A short history of Fr. U.

Fr. U initially entered the seminary in Argentina, he then invited several ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ "artists" into the seminary to view their creative arts and gifts. B. Gallarata (spel) had him immediately removed. He then showed up at the Winnona USA seminary. B. Williamson, having been informed of the event above contacted the Archbishop. A. Lefebvre said to let him attend but to watch him very carefully, as of yet he had not been accused or caught in anything that would terminate his seminary years. He then was eventually ordained at Winona. This told to me by +Williamson himself.

Then came a young seminarian, who Fr. U became his "spiritual advisor" as all priests are assigned new seminarians to guide them. This seminarian had special gifts of reasoning and thought (this from both Fr. U and B. Williamson themselves to me) and was a very strong and robust young man, one that was very street wise (sort of a tough), a physical match for anyone.

Fr. U became very close to this seminarian, closer than anyone else. He even gave him a special chalice, studded in Jєωels and worth thousands of dollars. That's when I, his father became suspicious.

Fr. U had had several "secret meetings" with a group of priests, around 20 or so, who had agreed with him to attempt to start a new seminary of "special gifted priests" sort of a new group of priest soldiers with a formation of exception studies, etc. The B. had not been aware if this group until a seminarian had, against the rules, entered a room and found a paper containing the rules for this new priestly formation. B. Williamson hit the roof, called them all in and said - take this to B. Felly and let him decide what to do or leave now. They decided to leave immediately, knowing B. Felly would not approve. Fr. U left with three seminarians and two priests - the others, cowards as they were then and now, decided to hide themselves and their part in these meetings and attempted formation of the new order they were envisioning - two of those were Fr. Novak and Fr. Beck, among others.

The seminarian, closest to Fr. U was in confusion, didn't know what to do. He called Fr. Novak for advice, Fr's advice - "I don't know you anymore, I'll have nothing to do with it" - Fr. Novak was this seminarians local priest at Our Lady of Fatima in Pittsburgh who helped him enter the seminary and who had been conspiring with Fr.U all along until they were discovered. The seminarian, would have stayed, all he wanted was Fr. Novak to say so, to tell him what to do, that's all he was asking him - and he was betrayed royally.

The seminarian left with the group - they wondered around approaching various diocese to enter, Fr. U always using this seminarian to do the negotiation because of his ability to see and understand what was being said and what men think. But before they could find a "home" which ended to be Scranton - they in the meantime stopped and found lodging. Fr. U slept in the same bed with this seminarian at this time - he then tried to 'touch' him inappropriately - which then came to Fr. U being on the ground and about to be pummeled by this seminarian ( I won't go into detail here - nothing happened because this seminarian, having been brought up by a very good traditional family, absolutely loathed and hated "fαɢɢօts") Fr. U was told - the only reason I don't bash your head in, is because you are a priest. Then this seminarian left them and went home for a year - a year of pure hell - so to speak, of what had happened. Then he went back to the seminary for one more year and then left for home - now a traditional father of 12. Imagine the absolute horror this seminarian experienced with this: Why God, why me, why did you allow this to happen - but B. Williamson said......

B. Williamson told me, his father, that God had chosen this seminarian to put a stop to this, or it might have gone much further and much more damage, that he was most probably the only person who had the courage and strength to resist, when the moment came, anyone else would most probably have given in or would have been to weak to resist, and who then reported this all to B. Williamson. There is some more to the story, but this is the basis of it, some can be filled in by reading the court docuмents. This seminarian later testified to the courts in Scranton at the invitation of both the court and B. Williamson.

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