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Re: Church fathers on finding a husband?
« Reply #110 on: May 07, 2026, 09:38:17 AM »
A brief but important elaboration on my last post:
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We are talking about the importance of fathers being involved in a young lady's courtship. That is a lot easier when the father is situated in a society with other fathers who are doing the same. For most people in most places and times, you just do what the people around you do. We're social creatures. We are influenced by the behaviors of others. We find it easy to do what our friends are doing, and difficult to do something no one around us is doing.
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Fathers should still be expected to step up and guide their daughters even if they don't have any other Catholics within a thousand miles of them, of course. 
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But you get what you pay for. A father who leads his family in isolation-- with no other Catholic fathers in his orbit-- is at a serious disadvantage. If you want to see fathers do a better job taking ownership of the courting process, the best way to do that is to get them in communities together. 

Re: Church fathers on finding a husband?
« Reply #111 on: May 07, 2026, 10:05:25 AM »
There is a book entitled "Guide for Catholic Young Women", by Rev. George Deshon, 1910. It is written for single women who are obliged to earn a living for themselves, and how to remain holy doing so. However, near the end he speaks about whether to marry or not, modesty, proper behaviour during courtship, great need of prudence in this matter, especially with a girl who has no parents to guide her, etc. https://archive.org/details/guideforcatholic00deshuoft/page/n287/mode/2up

I know he is not a Church Father, but this seems like a good Catholic resource.


Re: Church fathers on finding a husband?
« Reply #112 on: May 07, 2026, 10:09:12 AM »
Thank you for clarifying and explaining further! I understand better now, I really enjoyed reading your thoughts. That is all very true, especially the point you made about everyone coming from the same background once upon a time.

I think that is why there is so much division even among traditional Catholics, because no one has anything in common anymore. Everyone is raised in a unique way, there is not really a universal standard observed, families move from all over the place into one chapel, some are homeschooled and some come from public school, some from Catholic marriages, some from divorced parents, etc.
At risk of sounding repetitive... lack of social bonds is a frequently ignored reason for why traditional Catholics are so divided.  
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The truth is you'll put up with a lot from your next-door-neighbor that you wouldn't from some anon.  You have to deal with the people in your immediate environment. Even the most obnoxious, Dimond-thumping CI anon is amiable to his divorced boss, his fornicating co-worker, etc.
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They save their vitriol for trads on the Internet who disagree with them.
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Make them live in a community together and they'll figure it out. 
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If someone would rather share apartment walls with fαɢs than live next door to someone who sees the crisis differently, that's really all you need to know about them. 

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Re: Church fathers on finding a husband?
« Reply #113 on: May 07, 2026, 10:12:50 AM »
At risk of sounding repetitive... lack of social bonds is a frequently ignored reason for why traditional Catholics are so divided. 
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The truth is you'll put up with a lot from your next-door-neighbor that you wouldn't from some anon.  You have to deal with the people in your immediate environment. Even the most obnoxious, Dimond-thumping CI anon is amiable to his divorced boss, his fornicating co-worker, etc.
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They save their vitriol for trads on the Internet who disagree with them.
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Make them live in a community together and they'll figure it out.
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If someone would rather share apartment walls with fαɢs than live next door to someone who sees the crisis differently, that's really all you need to know about them.
Very good points, thank you! I do not mind the repetition, this is an important topic.

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Re: Church fathers on finding a husband?
« Reply #114 on: May 07, 2026, 10:49:14 AM »
At risk of sounding repetitive... lack of social bonds is a frequently ignored reason for why traditional Catholics are so divided. 
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The truth is you'll put up with a lot from your next-door-neighbor that you wouldn't from some anon.  You have to deal with the people in your immediate environment. Even the most obnoxious, Dimond-thumping CI anon is amiable to his divorced boss, his fornicating co-worker, etc.
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They save their vitriol for trads on the Internet who disagree with them.
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Make them live in a community together and they'll figure it out.
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If someone would rather share apartment walls with fαɢs than live next door to someone who sees the crisis differently, that's really all you need to know about them.
You seem to reduce disagreements with trads purely as small things. I've had a ton of disagreements with trads offline over very serious matters. Modesty, no salvation outside the church, women's roles, voting, etc.

I think there is a bit of rose tinted mentality about living in a close community as if what we believe offline is different than what we believe online. I have a hard time believing there are no individuals or families at these churches that you have told your family not to associate with. How is this going to be dealt with in a close community?