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Offline Gray2023

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Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
« Reply #210 on: Yesterday at 09:55:51 AM »
This is the same error that Gray had in regards to the thread on St Francis telling the Japanese their ancestors weren’t saved.  Women naturally placate emotions; it’s their NATURAL reaction.  With grace, we can see the proper SUPERNATURAL reaction, which is to speak the truth in uncomfortable situations.  Many women saints have achieved this.  Modern women still have trouble. 
And unfortunately all the women born after 1950 or maybe earlier have a harder time.  Modern women don't have very many real world examples and many of us learn by experiences and practical application, not just by reading a book.

Would you agree that most of us Catholics are starting way below what was understood for normal Catholics 200 years ago?

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Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
« Reply #211 on: Yesterday at 10:03:52 AM »
I am fine with men correcting.

Most of the men here use bullying tactics.  It might work on men it doesn't work on women.

Speak to us like fathers, not like we are raging liberal feminists and I am positive you will have better results.
No, your extensive pattern shows you to be against any correction that contradicts your whims. What you call "bullying tactics" are actually men's well-restrained stern warnings in response to your constant sidestepping, deflection, and prideful taunting.

"Speak to us like fathers." Ha. I was raised by a hardworking man's man who made the one consequential mistake of marrying the wrong woman for purely practical reasons, and he regretted it for the rest of his life. Some of his children took after their mother, some learned better at an early age to recognize in their guts when they witness passive-aggressive provocation and the self-righteous accusations that follow. (And THAT, dear Gray, is a painful example of God's permissive will that ultimately saves us if we persevere, step up, correct ourselves, and trust in God fully.) But poir little she/you are never at fault, always big bad him, even though you defy and undermine the rightful authority of men habitually such that you can't even recognize and own up to your clearly disruptive behavior.

BTW, what makes you assume it's only men trying to correct you? You don't speak for all women. Continue to do what you want in your personal life, but here you've hijacked what should be a rich and accessible resource for faithful Catholics into your own personal playpen.


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Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
« Reply #212 on: Yesterday at 10:06:58 AM »
And unfortunately all the women born after 1950 or maybe earlier have a harder time.  Modern women don't have very many real world examples and many of us learn by experiences and practical application, not just by reading a book.

Would you agree that most of us Catholics are starting way below what was understood for normal Catholics 200 years ago?
False.  There are no obstacles to grace which humans can construct, which stops God from enlightening a person with good will.  The supernatural transcends the natural, all day, everyday.

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Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
« Reply #213 on: Yesterday at 10:08:20 AM »
A perfect example of this is the murder of Quentin Déranque on the 14th of February in Lyon.

A group of right wing nationalist women "Collective Nemesis" went to protest an islamist speaker in the town of Lyon. These women wanted security and Quentin Déranque and few other voluntered. This is their website https://www.collectif-nemesis.com/manifeste They are dressed in elegant long dresses (for the most part) and would fool many men into thinking they would make great wives.

The 23 year old Quentin was stomped on and killed by a group of leftist agitators. This was his reward for protecting these unbelievably stupid women.

Had these women decided to behave normally and stay at home rather than engage in politics, the naive white knight Quentin would still be alive. There are too few of us to uselessly throw away lives like this.
The one consolation is that Quentin had just converted to Catholicism very recently. Let's hope that he met his brutal mortal end with a clean soul. The Vendee continues to this daya against fαℓѕє fℓαgs both left and right.

Offline Gray2023

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Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
« Reply #214 on: Yesterday at 10:21:48 AM »
No, your extensive pattern shows you to be against any correction that contradicts your whims. What you call "bullying tactics" are actually men's well-restrained stern warnings in response to your constant sidestepping, deflection, and prideful taunting.

"Speak to us like fathers." Ha. I was raised by a hardworking man's man who made the one consequential mistake of marrying the wrong woman for purely practical reasons, and he regretted it for the rest of his life. Some of his children took after their mother, some learned better at an early age to recognize in their guts when they witness passive-aggressive provocation and the self-righteous accusations that follow. 
I understand this. The rest was unnecessary. Thank you for your remarks.  Again you have a bias.  You have made a judgement call and continue to measure everything I do against it.