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Gray2023 · « **Reply #120 on:** **Today** at 04:32:32 AM »

Quote from: Änσnymσus on Today at 12:21:21 AM

The following is taken from "The Glories of Mary" by St. Alphonsus Liguori, the section on the humility of Mary:

The first act of humility of heart is to have an humble opinion of ourselves; and Mary always thought so lowly of herself, as was revealed to the same St. Matilda, that although she saw so many more graces bestowed upon her than upon others, she preferred all others before herself.§ Rupert the Abbot, explaining that passage, "Thou hast wounded my heart, my sister, my spouse .... with one hair of thy neck,"(Canticles 4:9) says, that this hair of the neck of the spouse was precisely that humble opinion which Mary had of herself, with which she wounded the heart of God.

Not that the holy Virgin esteemed herself a sinner, for humility is truth, as St. Theresa says, and Mary knew that she had never offended God; nor that she did not confess having received greater graces from God than any other creature, for an humble heart always acknowledges the special favours of the Lord, that it may humble itself the more; but the divine mother, by the greater light she had to see the infinite greatness and goodness of her God, saw still more her own littleness, and therefore more than all others did she humiliate herself, and say with the spouse of the Canticles: "Do not consider that I am brown because the sun hath altered my colour."

Our Lady herself knew she possessed more virtue than others, but that was not pride, it was a recognition of the graces God was pleased to bestow upon her and as was said above, it led her to greater humility. The point is, one may justly and humbly recognize the virtues one possesses as being the gift of God, and give Him glory for it. That is not pride. What would be pride, is attributing the good to oneself.

Are you using this to justify the statement of calling someone's son a quasi-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ?

I agree that men have the right to be angry at a world stacked against them, but if they slip into name calling and rash judgments of others that they don't even know then they taint what might have been just. Holy Anger does not allow for some one to do whatever they want. It was not prudent to name call.

And as for the bold part that is an acknowledgement that you make between God and yourself not something you broadcast on the internet.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #121 on:** **Today** at 09:08:34 AM »

"Oh, he called someone a nasty name!" ((( pearl clutching ))). The feminization of society is real. It's why society is falling apart.

I heard a story of guy who was fighting liberal scuмbag (Gavin Newsom) over some horrible policy. The guy called Newsom something "nasty" while in a debate over Newsom's demolition of the great state of california. All of a sudden, these fake-conservatives come out of the woodwork to chastise the guy for using the "f word", meanwhile they said nothing about Newsom or his liberal policies.

People who get caught up in superficialities or offended by "nasty" words, have no place in politics or philosophy or any topic which matters. These areas are battlegrounds for culture, for society, etc. You can't be "harmonious" on the battlefield. The time to "debate" is over. We're in a full on war for our culture and religion. Women who can't handle fighting and blunt words, need to sit back, be quiet and pray. This is not a playground where your motherly instincts want to make everything "fair". This is a war over ideals and society. War is not fair. You have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet. That's life.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #122 on:** **Today** at 09:22:29 AM »

Quote from: Gray2023 on Yesterday at 11:49:29 PM

I just wish they would go do it in the men's only part. If they are going to rant at women,

The rant is aimed at uncatholic, immoral, and scandalous women. Why is this a problem for you? Why are you defending immorality and feminism/communism in women? If you get triggered by criticisms of bad women, it shows you are philosophically apologetic for them, in some way. Which is wrong. Or you're just defending the sisterhood, which is also feminism.

No good catholic should defend anyone, male or female, who is anti-catholic. I don't defend the modernists in new-rome who have destroyed the church. And they are all men. I don't blindly defend men, anymore than you should blindly defend women. It makes no sense.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #123 on:** **Today** at 09:42:27 AM »

Quote from: Änσnymσus on Today at 09:22:29 AM

The rant is aimed at uncatholic, immoral, and scandalous women. Why is this a problem for you? Why are you defending immorality and feminism/communism in women? If you get triggered by criticisms of bad women, it shows you are philosophically apologetic for them, in some way. Which is wrong. Or you're just defending the sisterhood, which is also feminism.

No good catholic should defend anyone, male or female, who is anti-catholic. I don't defend the modernists in new-rome who have destroyed the church. And they are all men. I don't blindly defend men, anymore than you should blindly defend women. It makes no sense.

I have to agree with you. Well said. I can't thumbs up, due to this being posted anonymously.

Gray2023 · « **Reply #124 on:** **Today** at 10:13:36 AM »

Quote from: Änσnymσus on Today at 09:08:34 AM

"Oh, he called someone a nasty name!" ((( pearl clutching ))). The feminization of society is real. It's why society is falling apart.

I heard a story of guy who was fighting liberal scuмbag (Gavin Newsom) over some horrible policy. The guy called Newsom something "nasty" while in a debate over Newsom's demolition of the great state of california. All of a sudden, these fake-conservatives come out of the woodwork to chastise the guy for using the "f word", meanwhile they said nothing about Newsom or his liberal policies.

People who get caught up in superficialities or offended by "nasty" words, have no place in politics or philosophy or any topic which matters. These areas are battlegrounds for culture, for society, etc. You can't be "harmonious" on the battlefield. The time to "debate" is over. We're in a full on war for our culture and religion. Women who can't handle fighting and blunt words, need to sit back, be quiet and pray. This is not a playground where your motherly instincts want to make everything "fair". This is a war over ideals and society. War is not fair. You have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet. That's life.

Is cathInfo a battlefield? The title doesn't imply that.

Should men fight women the same way they fight men? No

Women do not react the same because they are not men.

You can't in some posts tell women to be more feminine and then in other posts tell them to man up or get out.

This is my point.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #125 on:** **Today** at 10:30:08 AM »

Quote from: Gray2023 on Today at 10:13:36 AM

Is cathInfo a battlefield? The title doesn't imply that.

Should men fight women the same way they fight men? No

Women do not react the same because they are not men.

You can't in some posts tell women to be more feminine and then in other posts tell them to man up or get out.

This is my point.

Being more feminine is realizing that you -- can't handle, won't like, will get triggered by -- certain topics and the way men discuss them.

If you want to debate topics that require logic/bluntness/etc then you are, by definition, entering the masculine realm. Because these topics, historically, were not women's areas.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #126 on:** **Today** at 10:53:39 AM »

Quote from: Gray2023 on Today at 10:13:36 AM

Is cathInfo a battlefield? The title doesn't imply that.

Should men fight women the same way they fight men? No

Women do not react the same because they are not men.

In the whole of catholic history, it was NEVER the job of women to debate politics, the Church, culture, or anything of that sort. The woman's place is in the home, taking care of her family, her friends and extended family.

A man can't be masculine, while knitting a quilt. A woman can't be feminine while debating politics/culture, because such debates require masculine energy. It's oxymoronic.

If God designed women to debate these things, they would have less caring genes and more logic genes. But that's not reality. And it's not wrong. It just is. Accept who you are, as a female, as God designed you, and stop debating. Or...if you want to debate, then accept that you will be frustrated and triggered.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #127 on:** **Today** at 11:01:44 AM »

A squirrel who plays in the yard with birds, should not get mad at birds, when he can't fly. He should just accept he's a squirrel, like God made him.

A woman should not get mad at men when they debate in a masculine way, because the woman is feminine, not masculine. That's how God made her.

Men should not de-masculinize themselves for women, and women should not become more masculine. This is a destruction of gender; it is a quasi-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ attitude. God made males and female different and what God makes is perfect.

A squirrel is made that way for a reason. Birds are made for a different reason. For males and females to change their natures, is anti-catholic, and is an abomination before the Lord.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #128 on:** **Today** at 02:42:49 PM »

I'm the guy who made the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ remark and I have been busy and only getting back now.
But glad to see my brothers in arms defending against the zombie trad feminist that is gray. Keep it up fellas!
Wear her down. Some day she will be humble.

I loved that squirrel and bird comparison. It was beautiful. I am going to use that one!

Helps get through the point to women especially who need those kinds of comparisons, rather than a more hard philosophical way of phrasing it.

I know for a fact that there is silent majority of women reading this who agree. But rightly know that it is not lady like to be intervening all the time, and they trust the men to take care of it. I praise you ladies for that. Your dutiful silence is noted and appreciated.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #129 on:** **Today** at 02:47:15 PM »

Quote from: Änσnymσus on Today at 10:30:08 AM

Being more feminine is realizing that you -- can't handle, won't like, will get triggered by -- certain topics and the way men discuss them.

If you want to debate topics that require logic/bluntness/etc then you are, by definition, entering the masculine realm. Because these topics, historically, were not women's areas.

excellent point. Even more so if it is a woman posting that.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #130 on:** **Today** at 02:51:19 PM »

Quote from: Gray2023 on Today at 04:32:32 AM

Are you using this to justify the statement of calling someone's son a quasi-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ?

I agree that men have the right to be angry at a world stacked against them, but if they slip into name calling and rash judgments of others that they don't even know then they taint what might have been just. Holy Anger does not allow for some one to do whatever they want. It was not prudent to name call.

And as for the bold part that is an acknowledgement that you make between God and yourself not something you broadcast on the internet.

I do not know how you could even consider it a possibility that I was using the humility of Our Blessed Mother to justify calling someone a quasi-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. I did not give any such indication.

I was merely making the point that between oneself and God, acknowledging the virtues one possesses as His gift is not pride. Of course, it is not humble to speak about one's virtues, especially in public. However, St. Francis de Sales teaches that in order to maintain one's reputation in a serious matter such as being unjustly accused of a grave sin, one may defend one's own intentions and explain their actions, and this can rightly be done by expressing that one was using a just anger in their speech.

That is not pride either, unless the anger was not just. It would be good for you to remember that the way men express things is quite different from women, and what may appear harsh or unjust to us (due to our giftedness when it comes to nurturing and compassion), it is not necessarily objectively harsh. I am not making a judgement on this particular thread, I am just sharing some concepts to keep in mind when you wish to properly interpret what men say. There are many things in Scripture that sound almost scandalizing to read if we women give in to irrational sensitivity, but it is the Word of God. For example: "Every woman that is a harlot, shall be trodden upon as dung in the way." (Ecclesiasticus 9:10)

Maria Dolorosa · « **Reply #131 on:** **Today** at 02:59:06 PM »

My apologies, I am new here, I did not realize my posts were showing up as anonymous. The replies quoting the Glories of Mary and Ecclesiasticus 9:10 were from me.

Maria Dolorosa · « **Reply #132 on:** **Today** at 03:01:57 PM »

My apologies, I am new here, I did not realize my posts were showing up as anonymous. The replies with quotes from the Glories of Mary and Ecclesiasticus 9:10 were from me.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #133 on:** **Today** at 04:02:38 PM »

“It all depends on the priest. I have yet to hear my priest say exactly what a wife or a husband should do, from the pulpit. You know what he does say? Each and every person is responsible for their own salvation. I agree with him. You can't change anyone. All you can do is do what you are suppose to do. And most people do not have the inside scoop to tell you what that is. You have to know yourself. A melancholic person needs to be less scrupulous. A sanguine person needs to be more prudent. A choleric person needs to soften a bit. A phlegmatic needs to take charge more. You get the idea.”

This is not helpful. It contains nothing that the average young Catholic man struggling in today’s apocalyptic wasteland of a dating market doesn’t already know. There's no practical, applicable, implementable advice to be found. It comes across as emoting at best, and Not-All-Women-Are-Like-That gaslighting at worst. The majority of priests have been out of the dating market for so long that they are unaware of the issues affecting Millennials and GenZ. And since they’ve been relatively insulated from the absolutely insufferable state of modern single women, they’re unaware of how cancerous, feminist attitudes have been absorbed by young Catholic women simply by cultural osmosis.

Young men don’t get the idea. In fact, they’ll immediately dismiss this post for what it is: Excuses. You probably think that because you’re a mom to young men that you know what it’s like to be a young man facing the tough reality of how much things suck right now. It’s not your fault, but you’re not equipped to empathize in this area.

“I am very sorry you feel that way. Most people are more annoying on the internet, than in real life.”

If you’re going to issue an apology, don’t make it a non-apology dodging any accountability on your part. The Boomer-tier advice from your first post, tl;dr “Bootstrap yourself!” is literally a meme amongst young men. It’s like calling down to a man trapped in a muddy pit, “Just scramble up the sides harder!” despite seeing evidence of muddy clawmarks from many previously unsuccessful attempts to get out already. Useless advice IS annoying. It isn’t just that people are more annoying on the internet, it’s that they’ll issue “fightin’ words” that would get them punched in face if said in person. Bad habit.

Is a certain group taught this? It sounds more like R&R style, than others. I think CMRI falls into this trap, too. All the priests I know, send me back to my husband. That is how it should be, the only exception is probably physical abuse. The harder thing to navigate is emotional abuse on both sides.

Just more of my annoying thoughts.

So what kind of abuse is it when a woman withholds the marital act from her husband? Would that be considered physical abuse or emotional abuse? Nagging? Physical or emotional?

Are we just too weak of a society to accept the mortal sins that are directed at us, to turn the other cheek, per se? Is that what God wants for people to just endure the circuмstances they are in?

How should this be applied to family, society, countries?

These would be great questions to ask your husband, rather than faceless internet strangers. It is after all in his job description to deal with your annoying thoughts and questions. Does he know you spend this much time on the internet asking other men to do his job for him?

“Real men know how to practice virtue properly. Please explain the virtue of rash judgment to me.

Do you even know if the poster has a husband?”

Real women know that provoking men on the internet and demanding explanations on anything and everything isn’t practicing feminine virtue. You clearly aren’t a paragon of virtue like St Joan of Arc, St Catherine of Siena, or St Hildegard. Nobody appointed you St Mommy of the Internet.

“How do you tell the difference between Holy Anger and rash judgement? It would be best to not fall into pride and assume you have Holy Anger.”

“Dearest husband, I am correcting strange men online again and they are telling me my advice is bad, I’m annoying, and now there’s a question of whether their anger towards me is righteous or rash. Is it possible I’m the problem? Please read this thread for me and see if I’m missing anything. I wouldn’t want to cause men to sin in anger in response to my posts, especially as I can’t control their responses, but I can control what and how much I post.”

“And cconquering yourself is the answer.

Ai generated

In Catholic tradition, conquering the self—or self-mastery—is
the essential, daily struggle to overcome selfish tendencies, passions, and sin, allowing for greater love of God and neighbor. It involves mortification, prayer, and utilizing the Sacraments to align one's will with God, often described as the "grandest triumph" and the foundation of holiness.
Key Aspects of Self-Conquest in Catholicism

Definition: It is the redirection of disordered passions and willful ego toward the service of God and others.
Purpose: The goal is to cultivate virtue (specifically temperance and fortitude) to achieve freedom from sin and to grow in charity.
Mortification: Fasting and small, daily acts of self-denial are crucial for training the will and subordinating physical appetites to reason.
Spiritual Life: Saints like Ignatius of Loyola and Francis Borgia emphasized that true holiness requires overcoming oneself, as prayer alone is not enough.
The Role of Grace: While requiring human effort, true self-conquest is ultimately achieved by cooperating with divine grace, particularly through the Eucharist and confession.

Practical Approaches

Focus on the "Little Way": Accepting daily annoyances, or "little crosses," strengthens the soul.
Targeting Faults: Identifying and working on one's "predominant fault" is more effective than vague self-improvement.
Habit Formation: Consistently practicing patience and humility to turn virtuous actions into habits.“

Once again, it isn’t your job to issue any kind of spiritual direction to men, unless you carried them in your womb and your husband isn’t around to perform that function. Your disordered passion is a pathological need to advise or challenge strange men online. When you’re told your advice is useless and annoying, your willful ego keeps trying to get in the last word. Consistently practicing patience and humility to turn virtuous actions into habits sounds like a great idea for you to implement. Cultivate virtue, specifically temperance by exercising restraint when you feel the need to post about men’s issues, correct what men say, or otherwise opine in ignorance. You have posted a whole thread on practicing humility, but are manifestly incapable of internalizing any of it.

Heck it isn’t my job to issue you direction on this platform, but in the absence of your husband or a priest, consider my spiritual authority on loan. My credentials: I’m a married father of two and my wife doesn’t go posting amok on the internet. You’re welcome. I also coach young men in a variety of areas When they ask for it.

Taking your own advice regarding self-mastery is a good start: Stop giving into the temptation to correct strange men online. Check your ego that keeps telling you that you know best how to issue spiritual direction to young men struggling to navigate the perfect storm of a job market so bad even veteran software engineers go a year unemployed, unprecedented in-your-face fraud, record high housing costs, rampant inflation, a poisoned food supply, the knowledge that previous generations lied about “go to college, get a job, get married, have two kids, retire, and everything will just be fine, and now the prospect that you’ll face all that crap ALONE. And when they dare discuss how screwed up everything is online you come out of the woodwork gaslighting and virtue signaling when all the average young guy wants is the acknowledgement that “Yeah bro, you’re not crazy it’s really messed up. Here’s a beer and a burger, let’s see if there’s anything we can work on that will make things suck less.”

“Enough already. You have no idea what other people think and then to attack with such a foul idea. I don't know who you are, but you need to learn not to say everything you think.”

Agreed. People should watch what they say on the internet. And you have no idea what young men think, you don’t know this person, and you need to learn to not say everything you think.

“Are you afraid God won't provide a good spouse for you?”

Average man looks at this as an attempted ‘Gotcha’ question. Anonymous answered quite well so I’ll include it below:
*Yes, God has not promised these things, He has only promised salvation to those who correspond with His will/grace. I have great confidence that God will provide me the graces I ask for in-order to save my soul. But I have no guarantee that I am to be married. It's more an issue of impatience. As we get older we tend to become more aware of our own aging, the skin is not as bright and glowly as before, it starts to sag, become dull and lines form. There is also an issue with temptations, is is very hard for young people to deal with sins of the flesh, some more than others. Yet despite St Paul saying it better to marry than to burn (in hell), there is almost no recourse to marriage due to the economy, housing ponzi and feminism. For a person to marry the stars have to align, and perhaps they will do so in the future for me, but for now I must suffer and hope.*
The world young men have inherited is on fire. Being aware of the problem, seeing little evidence that your forebears did anything to put out the flames, and suspecting you'll face all of it alone without the comfort of a wife and children to give your suffering greater meaning is depressing.

Your response below:
“I know suffering is hard, but maybe knowing that it is not in vain, will help you persevere in the challenges God gives you. Prayers for you.

Lately I have been thinking about men's more natural ability toward discipline. Many men seem to get very focused on ideas and become experts. I don't know if it is just me, but it seems that women don't possess such laser like focus. Sometimes I am jealous, (not in an evil way), I just wish that skill set came more naturally to me.”

You failed to get him with the gotcha and then unload a double-barreled dose of virtuous condescension. But it’s not surprising that a woman who has developed a masculine habit of internet confrontation wishes she could have another masculine trait rather than finding contentment in her natural femininity.

It’s genuinely a good thing that you recognize there are differences between male and female patterns of behavior, natural inclinations, etc. I mean that without sarcasm. Men would appreciate it if you would recognize your natural deficiency in relating to the male pattern of thought, how men take advice and motivation, etc and Be Silent. Likewise understand that young men have encountered decades of bad advice and outright emotional abuse from mothers, teachers and now female bosses. Even if you had genuine nuggets of Trad Wisdom, young men aren’t going to listen to you, strange Catholic Karen of the internet.

“Calling someone's son a quaisi-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ is not a truth.You really need to unlearn that behavior. That is a rash judgment.

And if you are going to call it Holy Anger you are probably wrong because just like humility if you say you have it, then it is guaranteed you don't.”

You are neither a mod, nor this man’s mother so it’s not your place to tone police him. You really need to unlearn that behavior. For better or for worse, something men do is make snap calls when they hear information. As a verified dude under 40, with a fairly large sample size of male acquaintances, here’s some Male Culture Lore: When I, a man with skin in the game, hear of an unmarried 36 year old man via his mom posting online about him giving up on trying and relying on hope alone of finding a wife, I make several snap judgments based on other single 30 year old bachelors I’ve met at Trad chapels. Typically scrawny or doughy, socially awkward, with limp handshakes, poor eye contact, chewing with their mouth open, mouth breathing, essentially the byproducts of poor parenting. Very fixable given the right attention.

First, those parents failed to set their son(s) up for success. The dating market 16 years ago was paradise compared to now. Heck in my case the dating market 6-7 years ago was a cakewalk. Second, giving up and going passive is gαy. That’s how guys talk, it’s how we think. We don’t mean he’s an actual sodomite. We mean “That’s pitiable and gross bro. Go make something happen. Stop being gαy,” ie quasi-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, ie removing himself from the gene-pool through inaction. Now, in addition to trying to snap that type of man out of his funk, I usually invite him over for beers and coaching. Hopefully within the next year or so we’ll have built the infrastructure necessary for the “Spiritual Retreat and Men’s Improvement Camp” I envision hosting. Moving on.

Anonymous is on the right track below:
No it's behavior you cant understand.
Because you are a woman and have a limited intelligence.
Proof why women should not really be on the internet at all, or at least with tight control from the men in their lives.

Your response:
“Well at least i am not a coward. Since we don't know who you are we don't know your intelligence level. And I bet there are women smarter than you?”

Maybe Anon was intending insult and maybe not, but what he said isn’t wrong. You HAVE demonstrated you don’t understand male behavior and communication. The fact that I’m writing out this long explanation is a testament that I hope you have the mental bandwidth to achieve some understanding after receiving more detail. You are a woman, a mom to mostly boys if I recall correctly, and yet you still don’t understand fundamental male behavior and communication despite having a front row seat to the show. White women in the US have an average IQ of 97. The writing pattern we can observe in your posts, what you choose to engage on, and how you struggle to understand concepts patiently explained by men in other long threads, generally indicates you’re probably around that average, which is fine. If you had your IQ tested as a kid in school maybe you know what your IQ is.

Anonymity does not equal cowardice. We’re all sitting behind the relative anonymity of a keyboard. But the fact that you jumped to cowardice, and attacking this probable ZoomerAnon, both his courage and intelligence, and pointing out the obvious that there are women smarter than him is entirely irrelevant. Even if he was a crave, blithering idiot, it wouldn’t change the fact that he's correctly identified that you don’t understand male behavior, despite being married and having sons, you are a woman, and you’ve demonstrated limited intelligence, not to mention high emotionality, and you are fundamentally incapable of communicating effectively with young men, angry or otherwise.

It's frustrating enough for young men to communicate across an IQ gap, but the real pain I hear from younger guys is them explaining the evidence of their own eyes only to be met by the insistence of older Trads that "I'm not like that, my daughter isn't like that, I know a girl at our chapel who isn't like that, so you are wrong and it can't be that bad out there." It's like you declaring the job market is fine, having not applied for a job in 20 years, and certainly not having applied for a job since 2020. You are not qualified to comment on how bad things really are out there for young men, you do not have the authority to correct strange men in a public space, and you engaging in multiple internet arguments with men you don't know is unladylike, unbecoming of a Catholic woman, and embarrassing to your husband. If my wife behaved in this manner I would be mortified.

I guess it is the only way they can release all that pent up aggression (not necessarily a negative comment, men need to fight, argue, battle, rant, etc, sometimes). I just wish they would go do it in the men's only part. If they are going to rant at women, they have to expect that we might not agree with maybe their more barbaric ways. It doesn't mean we aren't intelligent. It just means that are feminine ways might prefer a more harmonious approach, but as some of the men seem to constantly say, if you can't handle the way men are, then get off the internet.

It’s not the only way we can release pent up aggression, we do plenty of actual fighting, arguing, battling, and ranting in real life. Masculine energy belongs in the public square. You wishing men would bottle themselves up in the Men’s Only section so you don’t get confronted on your obvious inversion of reality is just that; an inversion of the natural order. If you want things peaceful and polite and feminine, go post in the Knitting Circle. So yes, if you cannot handle public discourse with men, don’t engage. You say "barbaric ways." We say direct, effective, and logical. The only man who has a personal duty to look after your harmony is your husband.

"Are you using this to justify the statement of calling someone's son a quasi-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ?

I agree that men have the right to be angry at a world stacked against them, but if they slip into name calling and rash judgments of others that they don't even know then they taint what might have been just. Holy Anger does not allow for some one to do whatever they want. It was not prudent to name call.

And as for the bold part that is an acknowledgement that you make between God and yourself not something you broadcast on the internet."

'Hey! The bleeping building is on fire! Form a bucket line!” “Watch your language young man!” “Lady, if you’re not going to grab a bucket, kindly shut the bleep up while the men handle this.'
It isn’t prudent on your part to take upon yourself the duty of correcting any man in public who is not your son.

“Is cathInfo a battlefield? The title doesn't imply that.

Should men fight women the same way they fight men? No

Women do not react the same because they are not men.

You can't in some posts tell women to be more feminine and then in other posts tell them to man up or get out.

This is my point.”

You're a woman so situational awareness is not your strong suit, but seriously lady did you just wander into the culture war and start taking shots without understanding the terrain? You are on a website for Catholic Trads pushing feminist Overton Window narratives when the culture pendulum of men reasserting their masculinity is swinging back at your head. You’ve put on a masculine mantle and gone into combat. Don’t expect men to put down their rhetorical warhammer in favor of a pool noodle before smiting you on the head.

Can you imagine St Joan of Arc calling a timeout at Orleans? “Pleez Eeeeenglish to use ze wooden sword! Ze steel ees very hurtful.”

The “Be more feminine option” means ceasing your pattern of correcting men on the internet. In your case either getting off the internet altogether, or having a Husband Captcha where every time you want to run your mouth your husband has to click around on various power tools authenticating that you have his permission to post and he assumes responsibility for your public behavior. If you insist on engaging in combat, a masculine space, then don’t expect special treatment, ie Man Up.

Your actions online display a pattern of behavior that reflects poorly on your husband’s ability to curb your rebellious, feminist instincts. That’s another snap judgment men make when they encounter your combative posts. I’m going to underline that again: Being a contentious Karen on the internet damages your husband’s reputation amongst his peers. Just like how parents are judged for being unable to control their kids’ behavior in a grocery store, men will judge your husband for his apparent lack of control and weakness. And continuing to engage in behavior that reflects poorly on your husband indicates that you do not sufficiently respect him to discipline yourself.

And that brings us full circle. Men are under no obligation to treat you with any respect or deference in public, particularly in light of how you preach virtues of humility, patience, etc that you clearly demonstrate you do not possess. Indeed, it is the charitable responsibility of the male community to point out your errors loudly and repeatedly, and tell you to go to your husband with contrition, have him read your posting history, and submit to him curbing your poor behavior online.

WorldsAway · « **Reply #134 on:** **Today** at 04:53:49 PM »

Where are they hiding all the young, single, Feeneyite women?

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