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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2026, 03:38:45 AM »
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  • Crazy thing is that I actually know a few resistance families where the daughters would be quite willing, but the parents keep them locked away basically, or do nothing to help them find someone. Taking total advantage of the fact that they are trusting homeschooled girls.

    The autism of trads strikes agains.

    And these girls are in their twenties!

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    « Reply #16 on: January 07, 2026, 03:48:40 AM »
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  • It SOUNDS reasonable (it always does!) but when you think about it more than 30 seconds, it all unravels.

    1. "smart, handsome" -- she is looking for Chad who also happens to be a saint. How can she hope for a 10, when she is (objectively) a 3 or a 6? What awesome stuff does she bring to the table? She never mentioned anything about her skills, what she has to offer, etc. in her whole rant.
    "I went on two dates with two different guys who are nice but not my type." - huge red flag. Again, it seems that she is fishing outside her league.

    2. She blames her family for skipping over her -- that sure sounds mean and unfair. I'm sure there's another side to this story! Parents don't just treat one child like trash. I'm not buying it.

    3. She wants to find a guy "at the finish line" rather than picking out a man with *potential* and then growing with him through a long married life. Yes, a man isn't going to drastically change. But waiting at the finish line is the BS way of going about it.
    Let's see here

    She is
    >36 (very old and geriatric pregnancy)
    >wants a handsome man
    >nice guys but not handsome = no good
    >"can't attract the type of men I WANT"
    >looks down on men without certain education (papers with Jєωιѕн signatures on it and what about tradesmen?)
    >doesn't understand the fixed awkward smile (parents don't have the heart to give her a reality check which is frankly WAY over due, 26 would have been quite late but shes 36!)
    >She is still in school getting ANOTHER DEGREE (really makes you think what career she even has? worthless meme degrees?)
    >gets told her standards are too high but can't accept it
    >wants someone who is put together but she still lives with her parents at 36 while getting ANOTHER degree

    If she was 16 and a virgin she her standards would not be considered high but reasonable since she would been young with potential to fix any personality/virtue issues, but she is 36 and has a bad attitude, with very high standards and refuses to acknowledge her own REAL value and not meme brainwashing feminism has told her.

    Her problem is she is old with no real value of her self and little virtue and self reflection, not the type of women any well adjusted man would want to marry, that's why only overweight men and men with little faith (most likely not true but she is blinded by her pride). She would need to be humble, meek, slim and at least 10 yrs younger to find the type of man she wants.

    Stuff like this is understood immediately by any decent man who is looking for a good wife, those men see her and 'just know' she isn't wife material.


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    « Reply #17 on: January 07, 2026, 03:55:08 AM »
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  • Crazy thing is that I actually know a few resistance families where the daughters would be quite willing, but the parents keep them locked away basically, or do nothing to help them find someone. Taking total advantage of the fact that they are trusting homeschooled girls.

    The autism of trads strikes agains.

    And these girls are in their twenties!
    What sort of people are the parents like? Are they boomerish? I just don't understand how parents allow their daughters to age without seriously looking for a good husband for them. It just doesn't make sense. So they are smart enough to homeschool them, are blessed enough to be traditional Catholics and attend a resistance parish. Do they think prince charming is going to suddenly show up and ask them for their daughters hand in marriage? How can he if they are locked away at home? Women are not like men, their youth is much shorter and the ideal time for marriage younger than that of a man. Are these girls slim, feminine and virtuous? You say 20s but early mid or late because there is a big difference between a lovely 22 yr old and a less lovely 28 yr old. The clock is ticking.

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    « Reply #18 on: January 07, 2026, 05:50:37 AM »
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  • https://x.com/Devon_Eriksen_/status/2008604632403099728


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    An advanced degree and a robust career does not increase a woman's value to a man, as a relationship partner, because men aren't looking to be bankrolled, nor are women generally willing to financially support men.

    The things men want out of a relationship are not meaningfully enhanced by her corporate middle management email job. In fact, that email job competes with him for her time.

    But men are well aware that women THINK career success is attractive... because it's attractive to women.

    And women, who are much more sympathetic than men, but much less empathetic, often have trouble understanding how men's brains and motivations are different.

    So a woman with a high salary, impressive job title, or fancy degree will think she is more valuable in a relationship because of these things. And thus, her expectations will be higher, but what she has to offer in return will not. In fact, it will often be quite a bit less.

    And, just as women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of relationships. A man calculates, with an intensive amount of thought and prediction, what his life will be like if he allows her to leave a toothbrush and some spare clothes in his apartment. There aren't spreadsheets involved, but there might as well be.

    Finding out that a woman has a fancy degree, high status career whether it results in higher pay or not, or some other socially valued credential causes an abrupt shift in those calculations.

    And since empathy is often something women struggle with, it can often be very difficult for them to interpret the sudden shift to total disinterest.

    And "I am too attractive" is a more ego-flattering belief than "I am not a good relationship prospect".

    Over the course of my life, in hanging out with smart and financially successful women, I've heard a fair number of them complain about not being able to find an acceptable and interested partner.

    Invariably, the one thing every complainer had in common was that she was a lot better at talking than at listening. She was invariably willing to explain, at great length, what men were wrong about and didn't understand, but quite resistant to being told, however gently and diplomatically, about things she might not understand about men.

     This is, of course, a self-inflicting selection bias. Women who know how to listen to men about what men  want, and how men see the world, tend not to end up complaining about their string of failed relationships and general male disinterest.

    Women who are good at empathy and care what men want have very little trouble finding men who like them and are willing to commit. Women who whine about how they intimidate men are, by definition, bad relationship partners, which men can easily spot.

    After all, who wants a wife who doesn't understand him, doesn't listen when he tries to explain, and blames her shortcomings on him?

    That's what this "I intimidate men" thing really is, and if you want to understand how disgusting men find it, imagine a man approaching you, propositioning you for sex, and then, when you reject him because he's a total stranger and hasn't done a thing to build excitement or trust, he accuses you of being a prude or a lesbian.

    In other words, in a message brought to you by the Department of Slowly and Painfully Working Out the Obvious, people don't like it when you blame your unattractiveness on them.
    Good post, the 36 yr old falls into this perfectly, now if only she was 20 yrs younger so you could take note and play her future accordingly.

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    « Reply #19 on: January 07, 2026, 08:50:21 AM »
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  • What sort of people are the parents like? Are they boomerish? I just don't understand how parents allow their daughters to age without seriously looking for a good husband for them. It just doesn't make sense. So they are smart enough to homeschool them, are blessed enough to be traditional Catholics and attend a resistance parish. Do they think prince charming is going to suddenly show up and ask them for their daughters hand in marriage? How can he if they are locked away at home? Women are not like men, their youth is much shorter and the ideal time for marriage younger than that of a man. Are these girls slim, feminine and virtuous? You say 20s but early mid or late because there is a big difference between a lovely 22 yr old and a less lovely 28 yr old. The clock is ticking.
    Honestly, they do seem to think it will just happen. Like women don't need help from their fathers.
    I think in most cases it is either the father is over protective, or just doesnt care enough. Too wimpish to bring it up as a subject in conversation maybe. There are ways  to bring men to your household without being too obvious that you are setting your daughter up. Cos western women hate that.
    And as to their ages, all ages. But the older ones I can see are getting desperate or starting to give up. Women all know this. 26-28 is decision time.


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    Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
    « Reply #20 on: January 07, 2026, 09:55:08 AM »
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  •  26-28 is decision time.
    My opinion: 17-21 should be decision time for a traditional Catholic woman in the US and abroad.

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    « Reply #21 on: January 07, 2026, 10:34:50 AM »
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  • My opinion: 17-21 should be decision time for a traditional Catholic woman in the US and abroad.
    You're totally right. I do agree. 

    but I guess what I meant was that 28 is really the point of no return. When the propaganda maxes out and has completed its work. 


    After this point, almost without exception, a woman is totally ruined for marriage. The lies continue in society and even in tradition of course. Reducing a woman down to the mere act of having children, and paying no attention to her ABILITY to be a good mother. So people get away believing they can meet someone in their thirties. This delusion is furthered by the wimpy men who do go for them. But by her thirties a woman knows she is incapable of living in a subordinate relationship that is marriage. It is so, so far away from when she should have done it. 

    Thank you boomers, for destroying your daughters and leaving us with this mess.

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    « Reply #22 on: January 07, 2026, 10:40:33 AM »
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  • Spoke with a trad priest recently about why there are so few young marriages....family interference was the #1 problem. Meaning the parents thought the prospective groom or bride wasn't "good enough" or "Catholic enough" for their precious child.  Most notably was a pre-occupation with whether or not the prospective groom was a "pedophile".  


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    « Reply #23 on: January 07, 2026, 11:20:52 AM »
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  • Spoke with a trad priest recently about why there are so few young marriages....family interference was the #1 problem. Meaning the parents thought the prospective groom or bride wasn't "good enough" or "Catholic enough" for their precious child.  Most notably was a pre-occupation with whether or not the prospective groom was a "pedophile". 


    Bingo.You hit on a really crucial point here.

    Talking even within the resistance, there is a HUGE gulf of opinion between the opinion of priests and parents on this issue. The priests know Catholic history, teaching, etc. etc. They are the ones who do marriage prep after all. Almost ALL of them have no issues with age gaps. 


    The parents however are the opposite. I have struggled to meet parents within the resistance who are ok with it. Even when they are, then the next issue is whether their daughters are ok with it. Usually once they have cellphones, they're toast anyway. But hey, me even saying that, is being a "predator" right?

    One resistance priest described this as worldliness to me. He's totally right.

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    « Reply #24 on: January 07, 2026, 01:57:52 PM »
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  • Bingo.You hit on a really crucial point here.

    Talking even within the resistance, there is a HUGE gulf of opinion between the opinion of priests and parents on this issue. The priests know Catholic history, teaching, etc. etc. They are the ones who do marriage prep after all. Almost ALL of them have no issues with age gaps.


    The parents however are the opposite. I have struggled to meet parents within the resistance who are ok with it. Even when they are, then the next issue is whether their daughters are ok with it. Usually once they have cellphones, they're toast anyway. But hey, me even saying that, is being a "predator" right?

    One resistance priest described this as worldliness to me. He's totally right.

    This fallacy that you must be close in age is indeed based on worldliness.  These girls want a "best friend" who is an equal, not a superior who will instruct and guide them.  A husband closer in age is more easily controlled and manipulated.  And that is better for an interfering family as well.  A mature older gentleman isn't going to let the MIL call the shots.

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    « Reply #25 on: January 07, 2026, 04:40:07 PM »
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  • You're totally right. I do agree.

    but I guess what I meant was that 28 is really the point of no return. When the propaganda maxes out and has completed its work.


    After this point, almost without exception, a woman is totally ruined for marriage. The lies continue in society and even in tradition of course. Reducing a woman down to the mere act of having children, and paying no attention to her ABILITY to be a good mother. So people get away believing they can meet someone in their thirties. This delusion is furthered by the wimpy men who do go for them. But by her thirties a woman knows she is incapable of living in a subordinate relationship that is marriage. It is so, so far away from when she should have done it.

    Thank you boomers, for destroying your daughters and leaving us with this mess.
    Eh i don't think it's completely impossible for trad Catholic women to be good mothers if they marry very late. Secular women on the other hand...


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    « Reply #26 on: January 07, 2026, 07:24:53 PM »
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  • On the contrary it is even harder for trad women. 
    Lol have you not met them? 
    Humility would not exactly be their strong point. 
    A secular girl, properly converted appreciates what she has.

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    « Reply #27 on: January 07, 2026, 10:30:27 PM »
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  • I know a man, early 30s, good career, not fat and somewhat fit, hair line is fading away, has a small unit with a home loan. He is resorting to going to other states to find a lady. The ones at our chapel simply aren't up to par or don't want him.

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    « Reply #28 on: January 08, 2026, 09:39:41 AM »
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  • Going outside of state is the least a man should do. travelling abroad is often necessary.

    Women are more easily influenced by the man when she is away from her family. And younger.

    I literally had my secular, Godless neighbor today tell me that a man marrying younger means he can have more influence on her. Even the pagans are seeing what's wrong with modern women. It's not just us.

    Whatever a man needs to do to get a woman who can be as compliant as possible, and therefore fulfill her vocation to be obedient, then he should do that. Disobedience is the poison of our age. 

    Call that manipulative all you want trad feminists, I call it a man wanting peace.

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    « Reply #29 on: January 08, 2026, 04:55:01 PM »
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  • I literally had my secular, Godless neighbor today tell me that a man marrying younger means he can have more influence on her. Even the pagans are seeing what's wrong with modern women. It's not just us.
    Secular people think that's a bad thing.