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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2025, 09:49:31 AM »
I can't understand this obsession with finding a wife.  Just work hard and make a ton of money and the ladies will find you.

Well, if you feel that you're called to marriage, I can see why you would be focused on this question ... though we have far too little information to judge that it's an "obsession", especially since this is in the Anonymous forum.

I should think that the OP would be interested in finding a good Catholic wife, and not just any "ladies" who will swarm to money.  In fact, if I were wealthy, I would not reveal the full extent of it precisely in order to prevent this.  Even from a natural perspective, it leaves you wondering whether the woman actually loves you, is interested in your ... or was just interested in your money.  Not a few wealthy men end up with "prostitute" wives, where they just do what they must to keep the money coming in, but then see other men that they actually like on the side.

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Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2025, 10:44:58 AM »
Well, if you feel that you're called to marriage, I can see why you would be focused on this question ... though we have far too little information to judge that it's an "obsession", especially since this is in the Anonymous forum.

I should think that the OP would be interested in finding a good Catholic wife, and not just any "ladies" who will swarm to money.  In fact, if I were wealthy, I would not reveal the full extent of it precisely in order to prevent this.  Even from a natural perspective, it leaves you wondering whether the woman actually loves you, is interested in your ... or was just interested in your money.  Not a few wealthy men end up with "prostitute" wives, where they just do what they must to keep the money coming in, but then see other men that they actually like on the side.

The #1 thing that causes a lady to not consider a man a serious marriage prospect is his inability to provide properly for a family.  This is not greed.  It's prudence. And no serious trad priest would ever advise a young woman to knowingly marry a man who has no career aspirations or lazy work ethic.  Serial GoFundMe's and panhandling on this forum is not a career.


Offline Matthew

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Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2025, 11:17:29 AM »
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Serial GoFundMe's and panhandling on this forum is not a career.


Did I miss something? I haven't seen any gofundme links or anything that could be possibly interpreted as panhandling.
Except for Ladislaus, everyone else in this thread has been Anonymous.
And Ladislaus has zero public history of asking for anything, OR of being unemployed.

Are you, by chance, on drugs?

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2025, 12:18:00 PM »

Did I miss something? I haven't seen any gofundme links or anything that could be possibly interpreted as panhandling.
Except for Ladislaus, everyone else in this thread has been Anonymous.
And Ladislaus has zero public history of asking for anything, OR of being unemployed.

Are you, by chance, on drugs?

I wonder if the individual just misspoke.  Yes, I set up a GiveAHand, but it was for Father Onuorah, the Resistance priest in Nigeria, and he got every dime of it ... though it did not amount to all that much, to be honest, and not only did I give Father more than what the GiveAHand took in, but I'm pretty sure that most of the donations came in by way of requests for Gregorian Masses.

Nor, of course, and I "in the market", as it were, to find a wife ... so I don't think that comment was directed at me, but just some stream of consciousness.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2025, 12:49:10 PM »

Did I miss something? I haven't seen any gofundme links or anything that could be possibly interpreted as panhandling.
Except for Ladislaus, everyone else in this thread has been Anonymous.
And Ladislaus has zero public history of asking for anything, OR of being unemployed.

Are you, by chance, on drugs?

What I do think, though, is that she took great exception to my prior comment, protesting far too much ... where I suspect the poster might resemble the remarks I made.  So many huge red flags in that post ... where I'm on the fence about whether I should point them out, on the one hand not wanting unnecessarily to cause offense, but on the other hand using it as a lesson to men who are actually looking for wives.  I haven't quite decided yet whether to respond.  I might find a way to do it obliquely, without quoting the post, but that would not be easy.

So, let's just point out what I've found to be THE single most common logical fallacy out there preventing clear thinking ... the false dichotomy.  Where I said that a man should not flaunt his wealth in order to draw in a torrent of women, evidently I meant that a woman should not care at all about whether a man could provide financial security for the family, and just marry any man who has been flipping burgers for 10 years now.  That's a defensive overreaction if ever there was one ... causing alarms and red flags to go off (in addition to several points, word choices, language, and tone in that post).