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Änσnymσus

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Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
« Reply #355 on: Today at 08:29:45 AM »
A suspicion isn’t evidence.  A suspicion isn’t a fact.  You people are stupid.  

I’ll bet all of you who don’t like +Thuc have no problems going to the new mass in an “emergency” or even going to the indult.  Meanwhile the doubts for both the new mass/indult are numerous, factual, and constitute positive doubt and grave sin.  

But you’ll ignore canon law in this area and then attack +Thuc based on nothing.  You are worse than hypocrites.  
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Änσnymσus

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Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
« Reply #356 on: Today at 11:27:57 AM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on Today at 08:29:45 AM
A suspicion isn’t evidence.  A suspicion isn’t a fact.  You people are stupid. 

I’ll bet all of you who don’t like +Thuc have no problems going to the new mass in an “emergency” or even going to the indult.  Meanwhile the doubts for both the new mass/indult are numerous, factual, and constitute positive doubt and grave sin. 

But you’ll ignore canon law in this area and then attack +Thuc based on nothing.  You are worse than hypocrites. 



Who said suspicion was evidence? Are you even reading a thing I am writing to you?


You dont get to pretend like this isn't an issue. Especially when there is a perfectly good and valid line in the Williamson line.
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Änσnymσus

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Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
« Reply #357 on: Today at 11:29:50 AM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on Today at 08:04:48 AM
:facepalm:  canon law doesn’t support your position.  There is no moral principle which governs validity of the sacraments.  The moral principle would be to stop listening to gossip and half-truths.  A suspicion, until proven, does not reach the level of positive doubt. 

The true moral principle is this:  DO NOT CAST DOUBTS ON PRIESTS AND SACRAMENTS WITHOUT EVIDENCE.  TO DO SO IS A GRAVE SIN AND YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. 


In the entire history of the Church, whenever this was an issue it would start with a suspicion, an accusation. Then lead to an investigation. THAT"S HOW ANY INVESIGATION GOES ANYWHERE. IN OR OUTSIDE THE CHURCH.

We must be most serious when it comes to the Sacraments.

You Thuc cultists are committing grave sin by leading people to this line, especially with the Williamson line available to you in at least half of the country. 
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Änσnymσus

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Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
« Reply #358 on: Today at 11:31:25 AM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on Today at 07:56:51 AM
What 1 person thinks or what 1,000 persons think, is not a fact.  95% of Catholics today are heretics.  95% of Catholics in the 4th century were arian heretics.  A suspicion does not become a fact simply because “a lot of people agree”. 

All this talk about suspicion.  I’ve yet to see anything of substance except opinions.  “I don’t think (ie opinion) that +Thuc knew what he was doing.”  Sorry, an opinion isn’t a fact.

A suspicion becomes fact when it is investigated.

Are you going to go into purgatory for us all and pull back Archbishop Thuc and bring him down to earth so we can ask him ourselves?

If you have that power, I would appreciate if you can do it for us.
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Änσnymσus

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Re: Chrysostom on finding a wife...
« Reply #359 on: Today at 11:32:57 AM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on Yesterday at 10:44:48 PM
What is a “prudent doubt”?  You should use canon law terms, not something you make up. 

A prudent doubt would be one based on facts.  But there are no facts which cast any doubts on +Thuc’s actions (outside of the palmaranians).  This TomK poster has not provided any facts but just heresay and gossip.  Doubts based on gossip are negative, per canon law.  Nothing is verified. 

You obviously have no facts either.  And you do a disservice to +Thuc by carrying on about these fantasy “doubts”.

You might respond “Oh, I’m just asking questions.”  Well, a question isn’t a doubt.  Or, to put it another way, not all doubts are based on reality.  Canon law says that negative doubts/ questions are to be treated as not affecting validity. 


Thucs mental state is what leads us to strongly suspect he may have withheld intention elsewhere. 
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