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Child-rearing question
« on: September 21, 2013, 12:03:06 PM »
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  • My spouse and I have a disagreement regarding the rearing small children.

    It is about eating goodies in front of them.

    I say it is wrong to eat treats in front of small children (cookies, candy, ice-cream, whatever) and not give them some too. It drives me crazy when an adult eats treats right in front of them, and if they ask, they are told "NO', or "not till after you eat your dinner", or "no, it's not healthy for you." Or something to that affect, or even being told nothing at all while they watch the adult consume the forbidden goodies.

    I think that behavior is rude and mean, and instills envy and selfishness.
    I would either offer to share with them or forgo the treat if there wasn't enough to share, or I didn't think it was good to have it at the time. Or, the adult can go somewhere out of sight of the children and pig-out if he wants.

    My spouse thinks that it is perfectly fine to do the above, he says his parents ate treats in front of the kids all of the time, and that is just one of the privileges of being an adult. He thinks I am irrational.

    What do you think?

    PS- I am talking about small children 3-8 or so.


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    « Reply #1 on: September 21, 2013, 12:27:28 PM »
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  • I think there are certain,  proper times to eat. Grown ups and children alike should only eat at those scheduled times.

    I don't think you should be eating in front of your children and not share. It's best to avoid the situation all together.


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    « Reply #2 on: September 21, 2013, 12:41:08 PM »
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  • Being impolite in the sense of enjoying something in front of children, especially sweets is probably not the best idea.  It's different with wine or cocktails, when one can say this is only for grown ups.

    There are any number of other ways to set the example of the authority God gives  parents.  I agree that this situation has the potential to cause problems.

    To absolutely ignore a supermarket tantrum, no matter if the whole store thinks you're a monster for refusing to buy them candy or some toy is more in line with common sense, IMO.

    But then, The husband is supposed to be the boss of it all, so.


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    « Reply #3 on: September 21, 2013, 02:53:56 PM »
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  •  :drillsergeant:
    My parents made the rules when I was growing up in their house.  If there were snacks for adults only, it was stated, not explained or excused, and that was end of the matter.  We knew better than to beg and whine for food or anything else.  Those who did were punished.  Of course, my parents didn't sit around watching TV and eating junk food in front of us.  They were too busy working during the hours we'd be up.  Occasionally, they'd have guests in for cocktails and dinner, but then we children would be playing outside or in the "rumpus room."  We'd be given dinner separately and put to bed.  Then the adults would eat dinner and entertain themselves as they pleased.  The problem nowadays is that many adults are oversized children.  There is no distinction between parents and "kids."  Why then, shouldn't kids expect to join in whatever their parents are doing?  I see this every school day for the first month or so of school.  My first graders speak to me as if I am another kid in the classroom.  They may address me as Miss Frances, but the rest of their talk indicates they are on an equal basis with their parents, a third or fourth member of their parents' marriage!  They are this way due to ignorance of their proper place, or that there IS a hierarchy of infant to elderly.  It takes time, but few fail to catch on.  They have to be taught proper responses and ways of interacting.
    Parents, for your children's sake, stop acting like children!  If you want to watch TV and eat chips, do it after your children are in bed, and limit it to once in a while!   Establish boundaries and teach them by example.  PM me if you'd like some specific ideas.  
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #4 on: September 21, 2013, 03:50:18 PM »
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  • I'd be more concerned about the gluttony being modeled here not whether it's "fair" or not.


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    « Reply #5 on: September 22, 2013, 04:03:43 PM »
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  • I agree with your husband. Your husband should be allowed to have his treats regardless of the children. They can learn that they will get their turn when it is time. Children shouldn't have such a strong attachment to treats that this causes a problem. Teach them not to worry about what they are not getting.

    As for the rest of the people accusing him of gluttony, you are rather quick to accuse one of sin. That is sad.

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    « Reply #6 on: September 22, 2013, 05:31:17 PM »
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  • The husband is the head of the home.  He has God given authority and it should be respected.  If your husband is a working man make his life at home pleasant and attractive.  Do not bother him about what he is eating, and let him decide what is best.

    If you think he is endangering his health and is overweight, try indirect ways to educate and encourage him to take care of himself such as preparing healthy meals, working on your own cooking skills to make tastier food that is low calorie/ low carb.  

    You could also propose to him to take a family walk every day, it would be good exercise for him, and would be good family time.  

    Be creative, think and pray about this, but do not subvert his authority.

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    « Reply #7 on: September 23, 2013, 12:44:45 AM »
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  • I think if it is not the kind of thing you would do to a guest in your home, it is probably not something to do to your children.


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    « Reply #8 on: September 23, 2013, 01:33:37 AM »
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  • Quote from: Guest
    My spouse and I have a disagreement regarding the rearing small children.

    It is about eating goodies in front of them.

    I say it is wrong to eat treats in front of small children (cookies, candy, ice-cream, whatever) and not give them some too. It drives me crazy when an adult eats treats right in front of them, and if they ask, they are told "NO', or "not till after you eat your dinner", or "no, it's not healthy for you." Or something to that affect, or even being told nothing at all while they watch the adult consume the forbidden goodies.

    I think that behavior is rude and mean, and instills envy and selfishness.
    I would either offer to share with them or forgo the treat if there wasn't enough to share, or I didn't think it was good to have it at the time. Or, the adult can go somewhere out of sight of the children and pig-out if he wants.

    My spouse thinks that it is perfectly fine to do the above, he says his parents ate treats in front of the kids all of the time, and that is just one of the privileges of being an adult. He thinks I am irrational.

    What do you think?

    PS- I am talking about small children 3-8 or so.


    You're not doing a very good job of being impartial about this.

    "somewhere out of sight of the children and pig-out if he wants."

    Not exactly neutral language.

    I agree with the posters who said it's best to have mealtimes at regular intervals, to have a well-ordered household, and the one who said that he is the head of the household and not to undermine his authority, especially in the eyes of the children. You'd be cutting off your nose to spite your face.

    I doubt he's eating an excessive amount of sweets; I'm sure he's just a bit undisciplined, as many laymen are these days. Unless they've been in the military or spent time in a religious order, they probably never learned real mortification or discipline. Cut him some slack. But do your best within the bounds of your station in life to encourage him to improve himself.

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    « Reply #9 on: September 23, 2013, 11:33:01 AM »
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  • Quote from: Guest
    My spouse and I have a disagreement regarding the rearing small children.

    It is about eating goodies in front of them.

    I say it is wrong to eat treats in front of small children (cookies, candy, ice-cream, whatever) and not give them some too. It drives me crazy when an adult eats treats right in front of them, and if they ask, they are told "NO', or "not till after you eat your dinner", or "no, it's not healthy for you." Or something to that affect, or even being told nothing at all while they watch the adult consume the forbidden goodies.

    I think that behavior is rude and mean, and instills envy and selfishness.
    I would either offer to share with them or forgo the treat if there wasn't enough to share, or I didn't think it was good to have it at the time. Or, the adult can go somewhere out of sight of the children and pig-out if he wants.

    My spouse thinks that it is perfectly fine to do the above, he says his parents ate treats in front of the kids all of the time, and that is just one of the privileges of being an adult. He thinks I am irrational.

    What do you think?

    PS- I am talking about small children 3-8 or so.

    I agree with you.

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    « Reply #10 on: September 23, 2013, 01:14:27 PM »
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  • Children must be taught to respect adults, not the other way around.  A father--the head of the household--need not kowtow to a child's feelings that things "aren't fair," nor to a wife's demands about child rearing.

    Nor should a wife take to an Internet message board to undermine her husband's authority or complaint about his habits.


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    « Reply #11 on: September 23, 2013, 01:17:12 PM »
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  • There really needs to be a certain level of reverent awe around the offices of fatherhood and motherhood.


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    « Reply #12 on: September 23, 2013, 01:20:21 PM »
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  • We have treats that are for mom and dad only. All the kids know the Rocky Road ice cream is for dad and the sugar free peanut butter cups are for mom. That doesn't mean that we sit in front of them and consume them while they get nothing.  These are nighttime treats for after the kids go to bed when mom and dad I are relaxing.  I would no more enjoy a treat in front of my child with them ampty handed than I would let them enjoy a treat in front of someone else without offering them one. It isnt about rights, privilege, dominance, putting someone in their 'place'. It is plain common courtesy. Sure parents can have their treats, that the children arent allowed to have, I'll take a box of oreos to a party for kids and nice bakery pastries for the adults...that is normal. Who wants to spend $$ of good chocolate for a 3 year old anyway? But to purposefully eat show off that you have something and they don't? Just mean.
    If the whole family is outside working hard and gets hot and sweaty. Does dad get a beer and the children nothing? Or does the dad get a beer and the children some ice water or lemonade?


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    « Reply #13 on: September 23, 2013, 01:43:19 PM »
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  • I am the OP- the post directly above seems to be more to the point of the question I am asking. It is not that my spouse is particularly gluttonous, or that we don't eat healthy foods at scheduled times. It is just that we seemed to have been taught differently, and I was wondering which way of doing things was more of the norm in Trad households. I would feel guilty eating treats in front of a child who was watching me, while they had nothing, and wouldn't enjoy it anyway.

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    « Reply #14 on: September 23, 2013, 02:00:23 PM »
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    I am the OP- the post directly above seems to be more to the point of the question I am asking. It is not that my spouse is particularly gluttonous, or that we don't eat healthy foods at scheduled times. It is just that we seemed to have been taught differently, and I was wondering which way of doing things was more of the norm in Trad households. I would feel guilty eating treats in front of a child who was watching me, while they had nothing, and wouldn't enjoy it anyway.


    All you have to is explain to the children, "Dad is the head of this home, he is not bound by your rules.  He provides us with a home, food, your toys, and everything else.  Let's remember to thank Dad and appreciate all he does for us and not bother him."