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Catholic Monarchical Fascism
« on: September 21, 2019, 06:31:09 PM »
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  • A Kingdom which defends Hard Nationalism, anti liberalism, anti democracy, anti ƈσmmυɳιsm and of course traditional Catholicism. I see it as the mix of Salazar, Franco and Mussolini but instead of being a demonic republic a monarchy. Who promotes the traditional european traditions and customs which dont express paganism, a powerful prideful state of tough men who embrace sacrifice and self resignation and loving caring and strong women who embrace respectfully motherhood. Could it exist a better governing system? I just mention this because a lot of people think fascism is not compatible with catholicism but they are plain wrong Franco did it Salazar did it and Mussolini kind of did it aswell. This would be my idea of the perfect government, any objections or suggestions?

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    Re: Catholic Monarchical Fascism
    « Reply #1 on: September 21, 2019, 08:35:00 PM »
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  • This would be my idea of the perfect government, any objections or suggestions?
    I don't think the fascist regimes were the best form of government. I am not an expert on History, but weren't the various fascist regimes (including Vichy) beleaguered attempts to save the world from Jєωιѕн domination after World War I?


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    Re: Catholic Monarchical Fascism
    « Reply #2 on: September 21, 2019, 08:36:07 PM »
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  • I don't think the fascist regimes were the best form of government. I am not an expert on History, but weren't the various fascist regimes (including Vichy) beleaguered attempts to save the world from Jєωιѕн domination after World War I? Now there is no organized resistance and all of our leaders show their submission by visiting the wailing wall, including our Popes.

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    Re: Catholic Monarchical Fascism
    « Reply #3 on: September 21, 2019, 09:11:10 PM »
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  • I would love to live in a Catholic fascist-monarchical system!!

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    Re: Catholic Monarchical Fascism
    « Reply #4 on: September 22, 2019, 09:03:38 AM »
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    I don't think the fascist regimes were the best form of government. I am not an expert on History, but weren't the various fascist regimes (including Vichy) beleaguered attempts to save the world from Jєωιѕн domination after World War I? Now there is no organized resistance and all of our leaders show their submission by visiting the wailing wall, including our Popes.
    Fascism originated from a schism in the socialist groups in 1910. Socialists advocated a ʀɛʋօʟutιօn of the proletariat against the bourgeoisi all across the world menaning it was an international movement like ƈσmmυɳιsm which evolved from their ideology but some socialists (those who would form the first fascist parties) saw that this would only bring the destruction and division of one's country and instead of advocating class stuggles and conflits they thought the answer to the division would be the union of the people around the nation and that the individual will of the person should be second to the greatness of the nation.

    As today  the greatest ideological war is globalism (NWO) against nationalism (Remnants of resistance) in the early 19th century it was fascism (nationalism, traditionalism) against socialism (internationalism, progressivism). Germany's fascism was different since their lost of WWI was thought to be because of a stab in the back by the elites mainly Jews who betrayed Germany and sold it out (I dont know personaly only God knows) and as a consequence it was established the Weimar Republic which was stuly a degenerate immoral society, there was all sort of impurity across Germany, Berlin was considered the sex capital of the world with all sorts of prostitution, pedophilia and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity open for sale . nαzιs thought this was all done by Jews and Freemasons, even the Communist Socialist groups were thoughtto be created by jews to destroy western civilization.


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    Re: Catholic Monarchical Fascism
    « Reply #5 on: September 22, 2019, 10:40:00 AM »
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  • What is demonic about republicanism, OP? 
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    Re: Catholic Monarchical Fascism
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    What is demonic about republicanism, OP? 

    The establishment of the republics in europe were done by the masons first at the French ʀɛʋօʟutιօn then everywhere else to overthrow the catholic/christian world order in Europe . I m sorry to say that US was also founded by the french masons who tested the ʀɛʋօʟutιօn first in the US before going on to the big play in europe. Now today I agree there are a few good MP's Prime ministers who are fighting a good cause but we must not forget that the system of government we live today was the one implemented by Masonry which is the second greatest enemy of the church. If we were to be realistic I would say it was impossible for the people to accept a change from republic to monarchy today but with God everything is possible, in fact I dont know if you have ever read about the Catholic Monarch prophesy.


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    Re: Catholic Monarchical Fascism
    « Reply #7 on: September 22, 2019, 05:11:17 PM »
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  • I confess a strong pull to a theocracy which enforces very strict traditional Catholic moral, religious, gender and social norms. 


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    Re: Catholic Monarchical Fascism
    « Reply #8 on: September 22, 2019, 09:16:37 PM »
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  • The establishment of the republics in europe were done by the masons first at the French ʀɛʋօʟutιօn then everywhere else to overthrow the catholic/christian world order in Europe . I m sorry to say that US was also founded by the french masons who tested the ʀɛʋօʟutιօn first in the US before going on to the big play in europe. Now today I agree there are a few good MP's Prime ministers who are fighting a good cause but we must not forget that the system of government we live today was the one implemented by Masonry which is the second greatest enemy of the church. If we were to be realistic I would say it was impossible for the people to accept a change from republic to monarchy today but with God everything is possible, in fact I dont know if you have ever read about the Catholic Monarch prophesy.


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    Rome and Athens were republics far before then. And what about the Italian City states? 
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    Re: Catholic Monarchical Fascism
    « Reply #9 on: September 23, 2019, 04:42:34 AM »
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    Rome and Athens were republics far before then. And what about the Italian City states? 
    Although Rome was a republic it was not how we think of today they had 2 consuls who held the most power (not absolute power) and the senate would limit a bit their influence. The laws were made by the senate but only some ordinary wealthy and influencial citizens could vote. Rome was quite similar to Sparta's oligarchy but instead having 2 kings they had 2 consuls.

    Athens was the only democrat republic how we think of now and all through her history it was marked by quarrels and demagogy of the members of the state. Most statist just cared about their personal interests instead of the wellbeing of the state. It quickly fell in her influence first with the loss of the Peloponnesian war against Sparta and then was conquered by the Macedonians.  

    The Italian city states were also oligarchies modeling mostly the Roman Republic. They were ruled typicaly by a faction or family and they had one or two persons (some city states called them consuls others Doge but it was same idea) who held the actual power. 

    Democracy was only present in Athens which in my opinion was a failure. Republics modelled acording to Rome can work and do work but it has to have a union of purpose which is the serving of the state but us humans are sick with original sin so it is inevitable that some use it for personal purposes.

    I am only sceptic of democracies, the Roman Republic was a success until the soldiers started to pledge more loyalty to their commanders instead of Rome because of the Marian reforms but it was because of their sense of loyalty and service of the state that they succeded. 

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    Re: Catholic Monarchical Fascism
    « Reply #10 on: September 23, 2019, 08:08:10 AM »
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  • Although Rome was a republic it was not how we think of today they had 2 consuls who held the most power (not absolute power) and the senate would limit a bit their influence. The laws were made by the senate but only some ordinary wealthy and influencial citizens could vote. Rome was quite similar to Sparta's oligarchy but instead having 2 kings they had 2 consuls.

    Athens was the only democrat republic how we think of now and all through her history it was marked by quarrels and demagogy of the members of the state. Most statist just cared about their personal interests instead of the wellbeing of the state. It quickly fell in her influence first with the loss of the Peloponnesian war against Sparta and then was conquered by the Macedonians.  

    The Italian city states were also oligarchies modeling mostly the Roman Republic. They were ruled typicaly by a faction or family and they had one or two persons (some city states called them consuls others Doge but it was same idea) who held the actual power.

    Democracy was only present in Athens which in my opinion was a failure. Republics modelled acording to Rome can work and do work but it has to have a union of purpose which is the serving of the state but us humans are sick with original sin so it is inevitable that some use it for personal purposes.

    I am only sceptic of democracies, the Roman Republic was a success until the soldiers started to pledge more loyalty to their commanders instead of Rome because of the Marian reforms but it was because of their sense of loyalty and service of the state that they succeded.
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    Pointing out the differences between historical republics doesn't explain what makes them demonic. 
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    Re: Catholic Monarchical Fascism
    « Reply #11 on: September 23, 2019, 10:16:52 AM »
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  • When I hear "monarchical fascism" I struggle to see the difference between that and an absolute monarchy.  I'm not sure absolute monarchies are very good governmental systems.  I think feudalistic monarchies are highly preferred, a la the kinds of which were common in the early middle ages, with ducal lords having a high level of independence from their liege (think Alfred's England or Northern France).  Or the system of the Holy Roman Empire, again, quite decentralized, with the top liege having more of a moral than a jurisdictional authority over the lower lords of the realm.  Absolute monarchies are far too dependent on the virtue of the absolute monarch, something that history has shown to be devastating (Henry VIII, anyone?).  The earlier feudal systems were much better checked against the ambitions of rulers because of the decentralization of power and government. 
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