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Cardinal Manning Repudiated All Connection with the Oxford Movement
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2015, 09:05:58 PM »
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    Does SSPV ever give a straight answer on who they obey as pope? A contact was at a talk in Norwood last year by Jenkins, as I recall, and he said no one can confirm that Jose Bergoglio is an antipope. I think that's what made her leave that *depraved mess.

    A Catholic who is indifferent on the validity of a pope, is no Catholic at all. Rather he has the spirit of schism and of repudiation of authority. During The Great Western Schism, in which there were three claimants to the papal throne, St. Vincent Ferrer condemned those who were indifferent as to who was the true Pope!

    Pope Hadrian II, Fourth Council of Constantinople, Feb. 28, 870:"Therefore, to safeguard Church order, we anathematize...next everyone who henceforth acts deceitfully and fraudulently and falsifies the word of truth and goes through the motions of having false vicars..."

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    synonyms:   corrupt, perverted, deviant, degenerate, debased, immoral, unprincipled


    Does Hobson or any other Sirianist ever give a straight answer on who their pope is?

    No.. he is just called the “Hidden Pope”.

    Hide and Seek: Hiding is ok but Seeking is not rewarded.

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    Cardinal Manning Repudiated All Connection with the Oxford Movement
    « Reply #31 on: January 09, 2015, 09:07:17 PM »
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    Sorting through the maze of contradictory claims and the menagerie of questionable persons, in what passes for “traditional Catholic resistance” these days just might be the most formidable challenge and draining undertaking that one could experience during an entire lifetime. Asking God that you are favored with the gifts of wisdom and discernment via the Light of the Holy Ghost as you attempt to distill that occasional drop of truth from the ocean of lies into which our generation is immersed, I remain,

    Sincerely yours in Christ the King,
    Gary Giuffré


    Can't disagree with that.


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    « Reply #32 on: January 09, 2015, 09:27:34 PM »
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    Does SSPV ever give a straight answer on who they obey as pope? A contact was at a talk in Norwood last year by Jenkins, as I recall, and he said no one can confirm that Jose Bergoglio is an antipope. I think that's what made her leave that *depraved mess.

    A Catholic who is indifferent on the validity of a pope, is no Catholic at all. Rather he has the spirit of schism and of repudiation of authority. During The Great Western Schism, in which there were three claimants to the papal throne, St. Vincent Ferrer condemned those who were indifferent as to who was the true Pope!

    Pope Hadrian II, Fourth Council of Constantinople, Feb. 28, 870:"Therefore, to safeguard Church order, we anathematize...next everyone who henceforth acts deceitfully and fraudulently and falsifies the word of truth and goes through the motions of having false vicars..."

    *de-praved
    adjective
    morally corrupt; wicked.
    synonyms:   corrupt, perverted, deviant, degenerate, debased, immoral, unprincipled


    Does Hobson or any other Sirianist ever give a straight answer on who their pope is?

    No.. he is just called the “Hidden Pope”.

    Hide and Seek: Hiding is ok but Seeking is not rewarded.


    The word Sirianist was coined by a David Bawden follower. Are you one of them?

    Who do you recognize as pope?


    Hobson/Hobsonite Troll,

    You are[/i] a Siri-ist or Sirianist. Who cares who coined either term. No I am not a fake pope M follower.

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    Cardinal Manning Repudiated All Connection with the Oxford Movement
    « Reply #33 on: January 09, 2015, 09:39:20 PM »
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  • I am not a Giuffre supporter, don’t know him, never communicated him.

    But this is true, and you are helping to demonstrate it to be so:

    "Sorting through the maze of contradictory claims and the menagerie of questionable persons, in what passes for “traditional Catholic resistance” these days just might be the most formidable challenge and draining undertaking that one could experience during an entire lifetime."

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    « Reply #34 on: January 10, 2015, 07:47:00 PM »
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    Does SSPV ever give a straight answer on who they obey as pope? A contact was at a talk in Norwood last year by Jenkins, as I recall, and he said no one can confirm that Jose Bergoglio is an antipope. I think that's what made her leave that *depraved mess.

    A Catholic who is indifferent on the validity of a pope, is no Catholic at all. Rather he has the spirit of schism and of repudiation of authority. During The Great Western Schism, in which there were three claimants to the papal throne, St. Vincent Ferrer condemned those who were indifferent as to who was the true Pope!

    Pope Hadrian II, Fourth Council of Constantinople, Feb. 28, 870:"Therefore, to safeguard Church order, we anathematize...next everyone who henceforth acts deceitfully and fraudulently and falsifies the word of truth and goes through the motions of having false vicars..."

    *de-praved
    adjective
    morally corrupt; wicked.
    synonyms:   corrupt, perverted, deviant, degenerate, debased, immoral, unprincipled


    Does Hobson or any other Sirianist ever give a straight answer on who their pope is?

    No.. he is just called the “Hidden Pope”.

    Hide and Seek: Hiding is ok but Seeking is not rewarded.


    What is your name?

    Have you had any censures you may have incurred lifted?

    Whose to say your name is not listed as a member of a condemned Freemasonic society, like the Roncallian Rosicrucian Sect launched on October 28, 1958?

    During this time of attack on the True papacy from ʝʊdɛօ-Masonry swine, you (whoever you are) expect a Catholic to post the baptismal name of Flos Florum, Gregory XVIII, publicly? Do some minimal studying, the Rosicrucian V2 stench stole all the Church's property and revenues and have murdered clergy. Who are you?



    What is your name; is it Hobson, or are you just cowardly hiding behind his skirt?

    Listed on what list, a list made by whom? Where can we see this list? Or is it hidden with the hidden pope?

    Who are you?


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    « Reply #35 on: January 10, 2015, 07:52:02 PM »
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    The so-called prohecies of St Malachy, have been discredited and proven to be fraudulent. They were not written by St Malachy.
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    Take a hike. They ARE authentic. Corrupters of the true Faith said that St. Philomena and St. Christopher were not Saints.

    Of course if you are blinded by thinking the antipopes are supposed to fit on the list as True popes, you already are dead to discernment.

     


    No they are fake. Do some research. I have done mine so I am free to go  hiking now if I want.

    I am not blind to antipopes, nor am I blind to other traps that real Catholics need to be wary of, like some you are proffering.

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    « Reply #36 on: January 10, 2015, 07:56:39 PM »
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    Hutton Gibson on Gary Giuffre



    Hutton gave up on the hidden pope theory didn't he, considering it a crock?

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    « Reply #37 on: January 10, 2015, 08:23:00 PM »
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    The so-called prohecies of St Malachy, have been discredited and proven to be fraudulent. They were not written by St Malachy.
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    Take a hike. They ARE authentic. Corrupters of the true Faith said that St. Philomena and St. Christopher were not Saints.

    Of course if you are blinded by thinking the antipopes are supposed to fit on the list as True popes, you already are dead to discernment.

     


    I am not blind to antipopes, nor am I blind to other traps that real Catholics need to be wary of, like some you are proffering.


    This seems general.



    Just read his Siri -ite-infected claims in this thread and the sspv thread etc.


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    « Reply #38 on: January 10, 2015, 08:33:55 PM »
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  • We have to be subject to a hidden pope, whose name we do not know and his followers won’t tell us?  
     
    Oh yes, there is also a hidden college of cardinals and a hidden hierarchy…but you guessed it, we can’t know who they are either.

    Just be subject to Pope In Hiding or perish under censure.

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    « Reply #39 on: January 10, 2015, 08:35:43 PM »
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    The so-called prohecies of St Malachy, have been discredited and proven to be fraudulent. They were not written by St Malachy.
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    Take a hike. They ARE authentic. Corrupters of the true Faith said that St. Philomena and St. Christopher were not Saints.

    Of course if you are blinded by thinking the antipopes are supposed to fit on the list as True popes, you already are dead to discernment.

     


    I am not blind to antipopes, nor am I blind to other traps that real Catholics need to be wary of, like some you are proffering.


    This seems general.



    Just read his Siri -ite-infected claims in this thread and the sspv thread etc.


    Specifics?

    Who is your pope?


    You can read. I showed you where to look.

    Where is your "pope"?

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    « Reply #40 on: January 10, 2015, 08:39:44 PM »
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    Hutton Gibson on Gary Giuffre



    Hutton gave up on the hidden pope theory didn't he, considering it a crock?


    He was unable to separate his anger..[/i].  


    So you say..under cover.

    Maybe he, a very intelligent Catholic, who had been around a long time, saw through it all.


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    « Reply #41 on: January 10, 2015, 09:10:10 PM »
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    We have to be subject to a hidden pope, whose name we do not know and his followers won’t tell us?

    It is against the virtue of prudence, on a public forum like this, to post the baptismal name of the Successor of Gregory XVII.


    So if we PM you or email you will you tell us?

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    « Reply #42 on: January 10, 2015, 09:13:35 PM »
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    Dr. William G. von Peters

    Patrick Henry Omlor

    Fr. Lawrence S. Brey

    Fr. Tran Van Khoat

    Fr. Francis Desilva

    Hutton Gibson

    Robert Moynihan

    Silvio Mattacchione

    Kathleen Plumb

    Mel Gibson

    David Hobson




    Who on this list you provided do you think are not under censure or did not die under censure?

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    « Reply #43 on: January 10, 2015, 09:18:02 PM »
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    Hutton Gibson on Gary Giuffre



    Hutton gave up on the hidden pope theory didn't he, considering it a crock?


    He was unable to separate his anger at Giuffre (who among other things absconded with 100K of the Hutton's money) from the the historic fact of the the popes in exile, which all must be subject to, to be eligible for Heaven (Unam Sanctam).  


    What about all the good Catholics here and everywhere who are not subject to a maybe-pope in hiding that they do not even know really exists, let alone has any legitimacy?

    Are they all under censure?

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    « Reply #44 on: January 10, 2015, 09:26:55 PM »
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    Does SSPV ever give a straight answer on who they obey as pope? A contact was at a talk in Norwood last year by Jenkins, as I recall, and he said no one can confirm that Jose Bergoglio is an antipope. I think that's what made her leave that *depraved mess.

    A Catholic who is indifferent on the validity of a pope, is no Catholic at all. Rather he has the spirit of schism and of repudiation of authority. During The Great Western Schism, in which there were three claimants to the papal throne, St. Vincent Ferrer condemned those who were indifferent as to who was the true Pope!

    Pope Hadrian II, Fourth Council of Constantinople, Feb. 28, 870:"Therefore, to safeguard Church order, we anathematize...next everyone who henceforth acts deceitfully and fraudulently and falsifies the word of truth and goes through the motions of having false vicars..."

    *de-praved
    adjective
    morally corrupt; wicked.
    synonyms:   corrupt, perverted, deviant, degenerate, debased, immoral, unprincipled


    Does Hobson or any other Sirianist ever give a straight answer on who their pope is?

    No.. he is just called the “Hidden Pope”.

    Hide and Seek: Hiding is ok but Seeking is not rewarded.


    What is your name?

    Have you had any censures you may have incurred lifted?

    Whose to say your name is not listed as a member of a condemned Freemasonic society, like the Roncallian Rosicrucian Sect launched on October 28, 1958?

    During this time of attack on the True papacy from ʝʊdɛօ-Masonry swine, you (whoever you are) expect a Catholic to post the baptismal name of Flos Florum, Gregory XVIII, publicly? Do some minimal studying, the Rosicrucian V2 stench stole all the Church's property and revenues and have murdered clergy. Who are you?





    What is your name; is it Hobson, or are you just cowardly hiding behind his skirt?

    Listed on what list, a list made by whom? Where can we see this list? Or is it hidden with the hidden pope?

    Who are you?