Author Topic: cant get to Traditional Mass--so..novus ordo Mass? (Read 2814 times)

Änσnymσus · « **on:** January 13, 2017, 04:08:54 PM »

can't get to Traditional Mass--so..novus ordo Mass?

yeh, i really dont think Jesus would have let the Church go into such disarray and apostacy even.. that only the traditional Mass is... um... efficacious or however u say

In other words, i would rather go to the TM than the NO any freaking day. But i cannot. And I have gotten a lot out of the NO.. it is not totally.. um.. demolished or what have u...

your thoughts? I particularly want to hear from others who cannot get to a TM

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #1 on:** January 13, 2017, 04:53:47 PM »

What makes you think that you know what Jesus would or would not do?

Is the OP's view presumptuous?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #2 on:** January 13, 2017, 05:30:10 PM »

Why on earth do you think Jesus abandoned us? Rather, it was we who abandoned Him!

songbird · « **Reply #3 on:** January 13, 2017, 06:39:02 PM »

Chapter 12 of Daniel! Tells it all.

Matto · « **Reply #4 on:** January 13, 2017, 07:45:18 PM »

My advice is to stay away from the Novus Ordo.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #5 on:** January 13, 2017, 08:29:21 PM »

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can't get to Traditional Mass--so..novus ordo Mass?

yeh, i really dont think Jesus would have let the Church go into such disarray and apostacy even.. that only the traditional Mass is... um... efficacious or however u say

In other words, i would rather go to the TM than the NO any freaking day. But i cannot. And I have gotten a lot out of the NO.. it is not totally.. um.. demolished or what have u...

your thoughts? I particularly want to hear from others who cannot get to a TM

Of course you can get to a traditional mass...about a hundred years Ford starting mass producing cheap cars for the average citizen, the act of using a car, is called driving. You drive to a traditional mass, if it takes 1 hour, you must go every sunday, if it take 3 hours, try and go every 3-5 weeks, if it is 6 hours, maybe go quarterly (3 months). And on the sundays you don't drive to Mass, stay home and pray 15 decades and/or read the missal.

It's very simple, no Jesus has not abandoned us, the people of the world abandoned him. And the going to a Mass does not make one a Catholic. Holding the Catholic faith whole and inviolate does. Many rural communities in the early middle ages only got Mass once every few months. In Japan they had no sacraments for centuries! Catholics in newly protestantized countries could not go to mass for fear of serious punishment or even death; but they were still Catholic, because they did NOT go to the protestant service. So if you wish to remain Catholic do not go to the novus ordo or latin novus ordo, but only to the latin mass, or a non-modernized eastern Catholic Mass.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #6 on:** January 14, 2017, 06:28:22 AM »

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can't get to Traditional Mass--so..novus ordo Mass?

No.

There was a time when many could not get to the True Mass because it was taken away from them, it was gone, there was none to be found where they used to abound.

Many of us remained faithful and did not compromise our faith by attending the sacrilegious mockery of Calvary - while imagining if that's all there is then it's ok.

We prayed, read the Mass from the missal best as we could as we searched high and low, here and there, many, many wasted trips and travels looking for it and still we could not find it. We had only one choice while we were looking - to wait. Going to the new jazz was never a choice, was never even a consideration and never can be a choice.

It wasn't a very long trial, maybe a few years give or take, but we must have passed it because God sent us to the Holy Sacrifice being celebrated, hidden away in the basement of a house of all places! This is where the enemy had driven it and the compromisers had sent it. We hadn't thought to look there because until then, we did not know the extent of the crisis until God showed us where to find the Holy Sacrifice and in so doing, He showed us where it wasn't.

The new "mass" is not the Holy Sacrifice of Calvary, but if that's all you have, you might need to do the same thing we had to do - remain faithful and don't compromise - let our heavenly Father, in His own good time after he sees where your heart is, send you where you need to go.

Be assured that He will never send you to the service that mocks the eternal Sacrifice of Calvary, if you think you are inspired to go to the NO, then know those inspirations are not from God.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #7 on:** January 18, 2017, 04:32:06 PM »

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It's very simple, no Jesus has not abandoned us, the people of the world abandoned him. And the going to a Mass does not make one a Catholic. Holding the Catholic faith whole and inviolate does. Many rural communities in the early middle ages only got Mass once every few months. In Japan they had no sacraments for centuries! Catholics in newly protestantized countries could not go to mass for fear of serious punishment or even death; but they were still Catholic, because they did NOT go to the protestant service. So if you wish to remain Catholic do not go to the novus ordo or latin novus ordo, but only to the latin mass, or a non-modernized eastern Catholic Mass.

i always feel better after NO Mass, even though there are seroius problems in the parish. I dont appreciate people telling me to give up the Mass when they don't know one thing about my personal life and what issues i am faced w/ etc.. that is presumptuous. I don't even know where a trad mass is in my area, much less do i have the resources to travel that far

I g uess all poor people who live too far away from the trad Mass are on their way to Hell?

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saintbosco13 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 03, 2017, 09:57:40 PM »

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can't get to Traditional Mass--so..novus ordo Mass?

yeh, i really dont think Jesus would have let the Church go into such disarray and apostacy even.. that only the traditional Mass is... um... efficacious or however u say

In other words, i would rather go to the TM than the NO any freaking day. But i cannot. And I have gotten a lot out of the NO.. it is not totally.. um.. demolished or what have u...

your thoughts? I particularly want to hear from others who cannot get to a TM

You need to keep in mind that Scripture warns that few will be saved, and that few will have the faith when Jesus returns. In addition, St. Athanasius confirms that no matter how small of a group those faithful to tradition become, they are the true Catholics. So this certainly points away from the Novus ordo. Here are some quotes:

"How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it!" Matt 7:14

"But yet the Son of man, when He cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?" Luke 18:8

"Even if Catholics faithful to tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the ones who are the True Church of Jesus Christ." St. Athanasius

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #9 on:** February 03, 2017, 10:02:14 PM »

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can't get to Traditional Mass--so..novus ordo Mass?

yeh, i really dont think Jesus would have let the Church go into such disarray and apostacy even.. that only the traditional Mass is... um... efficacious or however u say

In other words, i would rather go to the TM than the NO any freaking day. But i cannot. And I have gotten a lot out of the NO.. it is not totally.. um.. demolished or what have u...

your thoughts? I particularly want to hear from others who cannot get to a TM

Of course you can get to a traditional mass...about a hundred years Ford starting mass producing cheap cars for the average citizen, the act of using a car, is called driving. You drive to a traditional mass, if it takes 1 hour, you must go every sunday, if it take 3 hours, try and go every 3-5 weeks, if it is 6 hours, maybe go quarterly (3 months). And on the sundays you don't drive to Mass, stay home and pray 15 decades and/or read the missal.

It's very simple, no Jesus has not abandoned us, the people of the world abandoned him. And the going to a Mass does not make one a Catholic. Holding the Catholic faith whole and inviolate does. Many rural communities in the early middle ages only got Mass once every few months. In Japan they had no sacraments for centuries! Catholics in newly protestantized countries could not go to mass for fear of serious punishment or even death; but they were still Catholic, because they did NOT go to the protestant service. So if you wish to remain Catholic do not go to the novus ordo or latin novus ordo, but only to the latin mass, or a non-modernized eastern Catholic Mass.

I couldn't possibly have said it any better. Great post! :applause:

Nadir · « **Reply #10 on:** February 03, 2017, 10:20:59 PM »

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I don't even know where a trad mass is in my area, much less do i have the resources to travel that far

What you say does not make sense. If you don't know where a true Mass is, then how do you know how far it is? Have you ever enquired? Say your area and someone here will assist you if possible.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #11 on:** February 03, 2017, 10:43:14 PM »

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can't get to Traditional Mass--so..novus ordo Mass?

yeh, i really dont think Jesus would have let the Church go into such disarray and apostacy even.. that only the traditional Mass is... um... efficacious or however u say

In other words, i would rather go to the TM than the NO any freaking day. But i cannot. And I have gotten a lot out of the NO.. it is not totally.. um.. demolished or what have u...

your thoughts? I particularly want to hear from others who cannot get to a TM

Of course you can get to a traditional mass...about a hundred years Ford starting mass producing cheap cars for the average citizen, the act of using a car, is called driving. You drive to a traditional mass, if it takes 1 hour, you must go every sunday, if it take 3 hours, try and go every 3-5 weeks, if it is 6 hours, maybe go quarterly (3 months). And on the sundays you don't drive to Mass, stay home and pray 15 decades and/or read the missal.

It's very simple, no Jesus has not abandoned us, the people of the world abandoned him. And the going to a Mass does not make one a Catholic. Holding the Catholic faith whole and inviolate does. Many rural communities in the early middle ages only got Mass once every few months. In Japan they had no sacraments for centuries! Catholics in newly protestantized countries could not go to mass for fear of serious punishment or even death; but they were still Catholic, because they did NOT go to the protestant service. So if you wish to remain Catholic do not go to the novus ordo or latin novus ordo, but only to the latin mass, or a non-modernized eastern Catholic Mass.

I couldn't possibly have said it any better. Great post! :applause:

the parish boundaries rule was in effect 100 years ago though

Matthew · « **Reply #12 on:** February 03, 2017, 11:08:14 PM »

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can't get to Traditional Mass--so..novus ordo Mass?

yeh, i really dont think Jesus would have let the Church go into such disarray and apostacy even.. that only the traditional Mass is... um... efficacious or however u say

In other words, i would rather go to the TM than the NO any freaking day. But i cannot. And I have gotten a lot out of the NO.. it is not totally.. um.. demolished or what have u...

your thoughts? I particularly want to hear from others who cannot get to a TM

The Tridentine Mass is available enough that MOST OF US can get to one within driving distance.

That is precisely one of the reasons I believe in the Traditional Movement. It's a test and all that (which God would do, and has done in the past) yet it's not a ridiculously difficult one to deal with, for most Catholics who have their priorities straight.

It's just difficult enough, without being impossible. Remember that God doesn't expect the impossible.

MMagdala · « **Reply #13 on:** February 03, 2017, 11:14:57 PM »

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can't get to Traditional Mass--so..novus ordo Mass?

yeh, i really dont think Jesus would have let the Church go into such disarray and apostacy even.. that only the traditional Mass is... um... efficacious or however u say

In other words, i would rather go to the TM than the NO any freaking day. But i cannot. And I have gotten a lot out of the NO.. it is not totally.. um.. demolished or what have u...

your thoughts? I particularly want to hear from others who cannot get to a TM

Of course you can get to a traditional mass...about a hundred years Ford starting mass producing cheap cars for the average citizen, the act of using a car, is called driving. You drive to a traditional mass, if it takes 1 hour, you must go every sunday, if it take 3 hours, try and go every 3-5 weeks, if it is 6 hours, maybe go quarterly (3 months). And on the sundays you don't drive to Mass, stay home and pray 15 decades and/or read the missal.

It's very simple, no Jesus has not abandoned us, the people of the world abandoned him. And the going to a Mass does not make one a Catholic. Holding the Catholic faith whole and inviolate does. Many rural communities in the early middle ages only got Mass once every few months. In Japan they had no sacraments for centuries! Catholics in newly protestantized countries could not go to mass for fear of serious punishment or even death; but they were still Catholic, because they did NOT go to the protestant service. So if you wish to remain Catholic do not go to the novus ordo or latin novus ordo, but only to the latin mass, or a non-modernized eastern Catholic Mass.

I couldn't possibly have said it any better. Great post! :applause:

the parish boundaries rule was in effect 100 years ago though

Is this a joke? Or do I misunderstand you? It's "parish boundaries" that are keeping you imaginatively tied to the Novus Ordo just because that's what's in your geographical parish?

Not to mention....
Do you have any idea how arbitrary and illogical those boundaries can be? For example, the closest Mass to me, geographically, is the Latin Mass, yet supposedly I "belong" to a parish farther away than that -- a parish where the church building itself is almost always closed, except for their uninspiring (of course) N.O. Mass times. Confession is, of course, even rarer there. ("By appointment")

Now, why would anyone who is serious about her or his soul consider "obeying" such parish boundaries which never offer the true sacraments and rarely even offer fake or mediocre ones.

My salvation is much more important to me than the "rules" of the diocese -- most of which were invented by ignorant layment and "empowered" but equally ignorant lay women.

Finally, as to accessibility ("outside your parish boundaries")...
Most of the Latin Mass-goers at my parish would be happy (and have been happy) to pick up someone needing a ride. It's part of the whole evangelization to the true Mass. I'm sure that if there is a traditional Latin Mass within driving distance, you would be able to ask either the parish or any Society, etc. celebrating that Mass if you/they could post a request for a ride. Again, most of us attending these Masses consider it a Spiritual Work of Mercy to make them more accessible to others.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #14 on:** February 04, 2017, 02:56:14 PM »

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can't get to Traditional Mass--so..novus ordo Mass?

yeh, i really dont think Jesus would have let the Church go into such disarray and apostacy even.. that only the traditional Mass is... um... efficacious or however u say

In other words, i would rather go to the TM than the NO any freaking day. But i cannot. And I have gotten a lot out of the NO.. it is not totally.. um.. demolished or what have u...

your thoughts? I particularly want to hear from others who cannot get to a TM

Of course you can get to a traditional mass...about a hundred years Ford starting mass producing cheap cars for the average citizen, the act of using a car, is called driving. You drive to a traditional mass, if it takes 1 hour, you must go every sunday, if it take 3 hours, try and go every 3-5 weeks, if it is 6 hours, maybe go quarterly (3 months). And on the sundays you don't drive to Mass, stay home and pray 15 decades and/or read the missal.

It's very simple, no Jesus has not abandoned us, the people of the world abandoned him. And the going to a Mass does not make one a Catholic. Holding the Catholic faith whole and inviolate does. Many rural communities in the early middle ages only got Mass once every few months. In Japan they had no sacraments for centuries! Catholics in newly protestantized countries could not go to mass for fear of serious punishment or even death; but they were still Catholic, because they did NOT go to the protestant service. So if you wish to remain Catholic do not go to the novus ordo or latin novus ordo, but only to the latin mass, or a non-modernized eastern Catholic Mass.

Um, not everyone drives or has access to a car, or, in several cases known to me, is physically, financially able to go, although many are.

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