Author Topic: Can a Traditional Catholic also be a sociopath? (Read 2650 times)

Änσnymσus · « **on:** January 29, 2016, 05:00:12 PM »

I suspect someone I encounter at chapel is a sociopath (lack of empathy, doesn't conform to rules, fraudulently manipulates others into providing financial support, has a hairpin trigger rage and engages in fistfights, gets in people's personal space, tells egregious untruths about others, stares people down with a Manson-like demeanor, and is a cyber stalker). Is it possible that a confirmed Traditional Catholic could be a sociopath and not really respond to graces received from the sacraments? This person is a female which makes the behavior quite chilling at times. She has been banned from chapels because of aggressive behavior.

Would like to know if it's possible that a trad could have such menacing behavior and truly be Catholic or is there some problem with faith that creates this situation.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #1 on:** January 29, 2016, 06:34:40 PM »

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I suspect someone I encounter at chapel is a sociopath (lack of empathy, doesn't conform to rules, fraudulently manipulates others into providing financial support, has a hairpin trigger rage and engages in fistfights, gets in people's personal space, tells egregious untruths about others, stares people down with a Manson-like demeanor, and is a cyber stalker). Is it possible that a confirmed Traditional Catholic could be a sociopath and not really respond to graces received from the sacraments? This person is a female which makes the behavior quite chilling at times. She has been banned from chapels because of aggressive behavior.

Would like to know if it's possible that a trad could have such menacing behavior and truly be Catholic or is there some problem with faith that creates this situation.

It's heresy that makes one a non-Catholic. Immorality doesn't expel one from being Catholic unless the crime has an excommunication attached, such as abortion, hitting a priest, taking a priest to secular court, not going to Communion once a year, joining a secret society, etc.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2016, 08:18:48 PM »

Taking a priest to court merits excommunication? Explain the times when priests were detained for sex abuse crimes in the archdioceses. Were they excommunicated?

poche · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2016, 11:54:50 PM »

Anybody can be a sociopath. The Devil when he finds the front door shut will try to get in through the back door. Failing that he will try to shoot fiery arrows onto the roof. He will try to throw rocks through the windows. I recommend that you avoid this person but failing that try to be nice to her. Doing so will lead you to a greater holiness. Padre Poi said that there are those who are the saints and those who make the saints.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2016, 01:20:50 AM »

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I suspect someone I encounter at chapel is a sociopath (lack of empathy, doesn't conform to rules, fraudulently manipulates others into providing financial support, has a hairpin trigger rage and engages in fistfights, gets in people's personal space, tells egregious untruths about others, stares people down with a Manson-like demeanor, and is a cyber stalker). Is it possible that a confirmed Traditional Catholic could be a sociopath and not really respond to graces received from the sacraments? This person is a female which makes the behavior quite chilling at times. She has been banned from chapels because of aggressive behavior.

Would like to know if it's possible that a trad could have such menacing behavior and truly be Catholic or is there some problem with faith that creates this situation.

What chapel in which state?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2016, 06:08:32 AM »

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I suspect someone I encounter at chapel is a sociopath (lack of empathy, doesn't conform to rules, fraudulently manipulates others into providing financial support, has a hairpin trigger rage and engages in fistfights, gets in people's personal space, tells egregious untruths about others, stares people down with a Manson-like demeanor, and is a cyber stalker). Is it possible that a confirmed Traditional Catholic could be a sociopath and not really respond to graces received from the sacraments? This person is a female which makes the behavior quite chilling at times. She has been banned from chapels because of aggressive behavior.

Would like to know if it's possible that a trad could have such menacing behavior and truly be Catholic or is there some problem with faith that creates this situation.

It's heresy that makes one a non-Catholic. Immorality doesn't expel one from being Catholic unless the crime has an excommunication attached, such as abortion, hitting a priest, taking a priest to secular court, not going to Communion once a year, joining a secret society, etc.

I understand what you are saying. I guess what I meant is why hasn't she become a better person? How can someone who by outward appearances is very devoted to daily sacraments and has a serious prayer life act in this manner towards others and be unaware of the harm she causes? How can she be oblivious to the destruction? How can someone who practices the faith lack a conscience?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2016, 07:38:41 AM »

People like that are everywhere.

Yesterday, I went to my cousin's funeral and there were people there that were hypocrites.
The NO priest included.

They are hypocrites. Fueled by jealousy and laziness. Full of pride, vanity has to be center of attraction. Yes, very charismatic and manipulative.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2016, 11:09:01 AM »

I find it very difficult to avoid this lady and her intrusions. She scares me because of her propensity for smear campaigns and physical violence. She does background checks on people and spreads around the information out of "charity" to warns others of "the truth".

I feel guilty when I try to avoid her at chapel as if I'm doing something wrong. I feel guilty if I don't answer all her inappropriate questions about my financial situation. She tells people I'm going to move in with her and that we are close friends. I barely know her. I've kept silent and endured her but I'm to the point that I'm going to explode and tell her to eff off. How do I get rid of this person so that she loses interest in me and my life?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2016, 12:31:18 PM »

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I suspect someone I encounter at chapel is a sociopath (lack of empathy, doesn't conform to rules, fraudulently manipulates others into providing financial support, has a hairpin trigger rage and engages in fistfights, gets in people's personal space, tells egregious untruths about others, stares people down with a Manson-like demeanor, and is a cyber stalker). Is it possible that a confirmed Traditional Catholic could be a sociopath and not really respond to graces received from the sacraments? This person is a female which makes the behavior quite chilling at times. She has been banned from chapels because of aggressive behavior.

Would like to know if it's possible that a trad could have such menacing behavior and truly be Catholic or is there some problem with faith that creates this situation.

Just wondering, is this woman from Armenia? There's a Catholic woman, who is originally from Armenia, on the internet who fits this disposition, except for the stalking part.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2016, 12:37:26 PM »

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I suspect someone I encounter at chapel is a sociopath (lack of empathy, doesn't conform to rules, fraudulently manipulates others into providing financial support, has a hairpin trigger rage and engages in fistfights, gets in people's personal space, tells egregious untruths about others, stares people down with a Manson-like demeanor, and is a cyber stalker). Is it possible that a confirmed Traditional Catholic could be a sociopath and not really respond to graces received from the sacraments? This person is a female which makes the behavior quite chilling at times. She has been banned from chapels because of aggressive behavior.

Would like to know if it's possible that a trad could have such menacing behavior and truly be Catholic or is there some problem with faith that creates this situation.

Just wondering, is this woman from Armenia? There's a Catholic woman, who is originally from Armenia, on the internet who fits this disposition, except for the stalking part.

No

wallflower · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2016, 12:50:13 PM »

This story activates my "one-sided" flag.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2016, 12:52:23 PM »

If someone is mentally ill, the sacraments can only do so much.

There are a few malignant narcissists that I know about that attend traditional chapels. They never ever admit they are at fault for anything, even when it is proven they clearly are - it's always someone else's fault. If they ask for your help incessantly and you start to turn them down, they will say you are uncharitable and mean. If they ask for your honest opinion about something and the opinion is not to their liking, they will say you are hateful and judgmental.

I could go on, but you get the picture. For the most part, they appear exceedingly pious, but it's all a facade. Which is why we should never judge a book by its cover.

How could someone raised in a traditional chapel, attend traditional schools for twelve years, turn out to prey on little boys? I don't know, but it happened.

Catholicism isn't for the perfect. Our Lord said that the healthy have no need of a physician, but the sick do.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2016, 12:59:24 PM »

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If someone is mentally ill, the sacraments can only do so much.

There are a few malignant narcissists that I know about that attend traditional chapels. They never ever admit they are at fault for anything, even when it is proven they clearly are - it's always someone else's fault. If they ask for your help incessantly and you start to turn them down, they will say you are uncharitable and mean. If they ask for your honest opinion about something and the opinion is not to their liking, they will say you are hateful and judgmental.

I could go on, but you get the picture. For the most part, they appear exceedingly pious, but it's all a facade. Which is why we should never judge a book by its cover.

How could someone raised in a traditional chapel, attend traditional schools for twelve years, turn out to prey on little boys? I don't know, but it happened.

Catholicism isn't for the perfect. Our Lord said that the healthy have no need of a physician, but the sick do.

Agreed. I guess all I can do is continue to avoid and when she approaches just turn and walk the other way.

Tiffany · « **Reply #13 on:** January 31, 2016, 04:42:06 AM »

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If someone is mentally ill, the sacraments can only do so much.

There are a few malignant narcissists that I know about that attend traditional chapels. They never ever admit they are at fault for anything, even when it is proven they clearly are - it's always someone else's fault. If they ask for your help incessantly and you start to turn them down, they will say you are uncharitable and mean. If they ask for your honest opinion about something and the opinion is not to their liking, they will say you are hateful and judgmental.

I could go on, but you get the picture. For the most part, they appear exceedingly pious, but it's all a facade. Which is why we should never judge a book by its cover.

How could someone raised in a traditional chapel, attend traditional schools for twelve years, turn out to prey on little boys? I don't know, but it happened.

Catholicism isn't for the perfect. Our Lord said that the healthy have no need of a physician, but the sick do.

Agreed. I guess all I can do is continue to avoid and when she approaches just turn and walk the other way.

First of all don't act on feeling guilty that is what she is using to get you to talk to her and answer her questions while spreading lies about you. I would be suddenly very busy. Is there another chapel you can attend?

Tiffany · « **Reply #14 on:** January 31, 2016, 04:44:47 AM »

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I suspect someone I encounter at chapel is a sociopath (lack of empathy, doesn't conform to rules, fraudulently manipulates others into providing financial support, has a hairpin trigger rage and engages in fistfights, gets in people's personal space, tells egregious untruths about others, stares people down with a Manson-like demeanor, and is a cyber stalker). Is it possible that a confirmed Traditional Catholic could be a sociopath and not really respond to graces received from the sacraments? This person is a female which makes the behavior quite chilling at times. She has been banned from chapels because of aggressive behavior.

Would like to know if it's possible that a trad could have such menacing behavior and truly be Catholic or is there some problem with faith that creates this situation.

It's heresy that makes one a non-Catholic. Immorality doesn't expel one from being Catholic unless the crime has an excommunication attached, such as abortion, hitting a priest, taking a priest to secular court, not going to Communion once a year, joining a secret society, etc.

I understand what you are saying. I guess what I meant is why hasn't she become a better person? How can someone who by outward appearances is very devoted to daily sacraments and has a serious prayer life act in this manner towards others and be unaware of the harm she causes? How can she be oblivious to the destruction? How can someone who practices the faith lack a conscience?

She isn't unaware it's planned.

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