What is wrong with us? Are we animals OR are we Catholics?

I dont like the fact that whence I speak unto a maiden there is reference to our lower nature.
That is not the only reason why men and women speak unto each other. Freud was wrong.
It is possible to have desires other than to mate, and especially if we are all anonymous here on this forum, not knowing anything about who we converse with, We should not have these thoughts in our minds.
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I put this to the floor.

What is wrong with us? Are we animals OR are we Catholics?

I dont like the fact that whence I speak unto a maiden there is reference to our lower nature.
That is not the only reason why men and women speak unto each other. Freud was wrong.
It is possible to have desires other than to mate, and especially if we are all anonymous here on this forum, not knowing anything about who we converse with, We should not have these thoughts in our minds.
 :detective:
I put this to the floor.

As adults we have to recognize human nature and do our best to make sure society does too.  

To not fall into despair, it is best to remember that the temptation in itself is not a sin. Sin is in the will, and if someone never acts in accordance with an evil temptation, he never commits sin.

Both young and old men and women have to take care and abide by good customs or habits (virtues) to avoid the occasion of sin.

It's a part of this life on earth that has to be taken care of.

It's really too bad people have forgotten so much of how good Christian society is formed and people used to live.

Our Lady speaking to Ven. Mary of Agreda told her:

'Thou shouldst not touch, nor look upon, nor speak to any person of whatever condition, whether man or woman, so as to let their images or resemblances find entrance into thy imagination.

This carefulness, which I enjoin, will be the guard of the purity, which I require of thee. If on account of charity or obedience thou must converse with them ( for only these virtues are sufficient causes for conversing with creatures), do it with all gravity, modesty and reserve.'

And the imagination is a faculty, or part of the mind that is most vulnerable to the influence of the demons.

They can quell desire, to lull a person into carelessness, and stir up, when they see the carelessness and inattention is full.

This is why virtuous living must become a way of life and not a burden, or something extra.

Supernatural graces from prayers and living a supernatural life are what are needed to overcome the natural. Nothing less suffices to overcome the natural flaws people have acquired due to original sin.

'Since their eternal happiness, consisting in the vision of God, exceeds the common state of nature, and especially in so far as this is deprived of grace through the corruption of original sin, those who are saved are in the minority. In this especially, however, appears the mercy of God, that He has chosen some for that salvation, from which very many in accordance with the common course and tendency of nature fall short.'

St. Thomas Aquinas

What is wrong with us? Are we animals OR are we Catholics?

I dont like the fact that whence I speak unto a maiden there is reference to our lower nature.
That is not the only reason why men and women speak unto each other. Freud was wrong.
It is possible to have desires other than to mate, and especially if we are all anonymous here on this forum, not knowing anything about who we converse with, We should not have these thoughts in our minds.
 :detective:
I put this to the floor.

I think as long as both have good intentions, it's OK for a man and a lady to exchange private messages here, in certain circuмstances. Those would be, for example, exchange of information, or discussion about relevant topics, or if they're looking for a spouse. As long as they're honest, there should be no problem. There are plenty of safety valves here if one decides not to correspond anymore. They can simply ignore the messages, or turn off the private message option.

But I think there are circuмstances where even the best intentions are not enough to ensure a holy exchange. For example, if this kind of correspondence is done in the wee hours, then there's a danger that wouldn't exist if it was done in the daytime. That's just one example of a circuмstance that would make it dangerous.

I'm a fairly new convert (9 years) and am middle-aged, so I could be wrong about many things. I hope I'll be corrected, in that case.

Our Lady speaking to Ven. Mary of Agreda told her:

'Thou shouldst not touch, nor look upon, nor speak to any person of whatever condition, whether man or woman, so as to let their images or resemblances find entrance into thy imagination.

This carefulness, which I enjoin, will be the guard of the purity, which I require of thee. If on account of charity or obedience thou must converse with them ( for only these virtues are sufficient causes for conversing with creatures), do it with all gravity, modesty and reserve.'

I'm sorry, but this seems too strict.

I understand that every woman's image is fodder for the imagination, which the devil can exploit later for use in his temptations. And I understand the concept that "it is not lawful to behold what it is not lawful to possess". So a man shouldn't stare at attractive women, especially if he's married.

But men AND women? What is looking at men going to do to me? I'm not the least bit tempted by men. Isn't that going a bit overboard? And "of whatever condition". In other words, the ugly, the beautiful, the old, the young. Old women and old men don't turn me on either. Not even in the wee hours of the morning when my body is fully rested, or after a full meal.

If this is to be our standard in purity, we SHOULD ALL be wearing full body burqas. Both men and women.

Some people are just looking for internet friends, to talk with on Cathinfo if the posting gets dry.
I would prefer if we all see pms as this, and not read anything into it.

You are the OP, aren't you, soulguard? Why pretend that you are commenting on someone else's remarks?