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Bringing Guns to Church
« on: December 31, 2018, 05:35:26 PM »
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  • Just wondered how many legally conceal/carry to Mass on a regular basis?

    I always do (and I personally know 4-5 others who also do).


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    Re: Bringing Guns to Church
    « Reply #1 on: December 31, 2018, 06:13:29 PM »
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  • Honestly that sounds a bit dystopian. I'd never live in a place where I could possibly be in any danger of being gunned down on the streets. If we had a 2nd Amemdment over here I would keep a gun at home just in case of the one in a trillion chance of a burglarly, but having to carry a gun to Mass? What sort of place do you live in? 


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    Re: Bringing Guns to Church
    « Reply #2 on: December 31, 2018, 06:18:06 PM »
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  • If we had a 2nd Amemdment over here I would keep a gun at home just in case of the one in a trillion chance of a burglarly, but having to carry a gun to Mass? What sort of place do you live in?

    You don't get to choose the day, hour and place where evil comes to you. You need to be ready at all times.

    Normalcy bias can be fatal.
    From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die. ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

    International Women's Day is a day we all celebrate Eve's rebellion at the Tree and our plummet into sin.

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    Re: Bringing Guns to Church
    « Reply #3 on: December 31, 2018, 06:39:56 PM »
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  • You don't get to choose the day, hour and place where evil comes to you. You need to be ready at all times.

    Normalcy bias can be fatal.
    I mean a tank could also come rolling down the street and then my concealed carry pistol wouldn't save me, but that's not likely to happen is it?

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    Re: Bringing Guns to Church
    « Reply #4 on: December 31, 2018, 06:44:47 PM »
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  • I mean a tank could also come rolling down the street and then my concealed carry pistol wouldn't save me, but that's not likely to happen is it?

    You have no knowledge of history, nor understanding of reality.

    The Soviet tanks couldn't defeat the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.

    The U.S. helicopters and carpet bombing couldn't beat the Viet Cong.

    Tanks can't stop an armed American population. That's why they want to disarm everyone.

    Go back to your gaming.
    From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die. ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

    International Women's Day is a day we all celebrate Eve's rebellion at the Tree and our plummet into sin.


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    Re: Bringing Guns to Church
    « Reply #5 on: December 31, 2018, 06:54:31 PM »
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  • At my SSPX chapel, I have seen or heard of the following things:

    1) Gang fight on the front sidewalk (with pitbulls, pipes, and all), so that the parishioners couldn't leave, and we wondered whether the fight would spill into the Church;

    2) A guy pulled out a hammer and started pounding away at the pulpit until he got jumped by the faithful;

    3) A month ago, an off duty cop had to subdue some weirdo who came into the church yelling loudly in the vestibule, causing the ushers to grab the attention of the cop to handle the situation;

    4) Related to #1, sketchy drug addicts living right next door to church, once causing the priest I was with to fear to walk past them to his lodgings.  Because I was open carrying that day, I was able to escort him;

    5) One guy, a professional lech, tried to move in on my mother, and was pressuring her to let him live with her.  I was about to body slam him in the church basement when the priest called us into his office and banned him from the chapel.  Wouldn't have needed a gun for that, but the point being that trads attract weirdos, and we are all targets.

    So I guess I agree with Quiddy: Better to have one and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

    Besides, unlike some other religions, I always got the feeling that the trad priests were reassured knowing several known and reliable people carried at every Mass.

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    Re: Bringing Guns to Church
    « Reply #6 on: December 31, 2018, 07:10:53 PM »
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  • Honestly, everyone who is responsible enough needs to learn to use a gun. It used to be basic teaching telling children how to fend for themselves, and as normal as telling them to eat their veggies. So, taking guns to church shouldn’t be a shock. Once upon a time everyone carried a gun everywhere. It’s only that we’ve gotten soft is it such a strange thing to think of.

    Women need to learn too. It’s not a safe world we live in, and you aren’t always going to be around good men. You should learn to defend yourself, and your babies.

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    « Reply #7 on: January 02, 2019, 01:29:44 AM »
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  • You don't get to choose the day, hour and place where evil comes to you. You need to be ready at all times.

    Normalcy bias can be fatal.
    If you die because of someone's hatred of the Catholic Faith then you go straight to heaven as a holy martyr.


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    Re: Bringing Guns to Church
    « Reply #8 on: January 02, 2019, 02:44:03 AM »
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  • If you die because of someone's hatred of the Catholic Faith then you go straight to heaven as a holy martyr.
    Not necessiarily so. You don't go to Heaven on someone else's hatred. You go to heaven on your own love for God.
    THere is no reward for stopping a bullet or whatever. We need to earn heaven by the life and death we live.

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    Re: Bringing Guns to Church
    « Reply #9 on: January 02, 2019, 09:06:43 AM »
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  • Wish I had mine New Year's Day.  Crazy guy wandered into the sanctuary.

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    Re: Bringing Guns to Church
    « Reply #10 on: January 02, 2019, 09:18:38 AM »
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  • At my SSPX chapel, I have seen or heard of the following things:

    1) Gang fight on the front sidewalk (with pitbulls, pipes, and all), so that the parishioners couldn't leave, and we wondered whether the fight would spill into the Church;

    2) A guy pulled out a hammer and started pounding away at the pulpit until he got jumped by the faithful;

    3) A month ago, an off duty cop had to subdue some weirdo who came into the church yelling loudly in the vestibule, causing the ushers to grab the attention of the cop to handle the situation;

    4) Related to #1, sketchy drug addicts living right next door to church, once causing the priest I was with to fear to walk past them to his lodgings.  Because I was open carrying that day, I was able to escort him;

    5) One guy, a professional lech, tried to move in on my mother, and was pressuring her to let him live with her.  I was about to body slam him in the church basement when the priest called us into his office and banned him from the chapel.  Wouldn't have needed a gun for that, but the point being that trads attract weirdos, and we are all targets.

    So I guess I agree with Quiddy: Better to have one and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

    Besides, unlike some other religions, I always got the feeling that the trad priests were reassured knowing several known and reliable people carried at every Mass.
    Where is this SSPX chapel?


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    Re: Bringing Guns to Church
    « Reply #11 on: January 02, 2019, 09:20:45 AM »
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  • Not necessiarily so. You don't go to Heaven on someone else's hatred. You go to heaven on your own love for God.
    THere is no reward for stopping a bullet or whatever. We need to earn heaven by the life and death we live.
    No, if you are killed at Mass because of someone else's hated of of Catholics, that makes you a martyr.  It's your love of God that puts you at Mass in the first place.
    Second, you said that there was no reward for stopping a bullet.  John 15:30 states, "Greater love than this no man hath, that a man lay down his life for his friends."

    Third, The dumber people think you are the more  surprised they are going to be when you kill them. Sam Houston said he "humbles himself before God, and the list ends there." I applaud those who carry to defend and protect the innocent.


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    Re: Bringing Guns to Church
    « Reply #12 on: January 02, 2019, 10:47:38 AM »
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  • A handful of men, some ex or off-duty law enforcement, discretely carry handguns at the chapel I attend. It's in a bad neighborhood. Knowing one or two are there at any given time makes me feel safer. Also, I feel (almost) bad for any terrorist or looney who wanders in thinking he's going to pull off an easy slaughter of Christians. 

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    Re: Bringing Guns to Church
    « Reply #13 on: January 02, 2019, 10:51:16 AM »
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  • You have no knowledge of history, nor understanding of reality.

    The Soviet tanks couldn't defeat the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.

    The U.S. helicopters and carpet bombing couldn't beat the Viet Cong.

    Tanks can't stop an armed American population. That's why they want to disarm everyone.

    Go back to your gaming.
    My point was the unlikelihood. Yes keep a gun at home, but concealed carrying to Church because the one in a trillion chance of something happening? I mean if you really wanted to be safe, you could also walk around in bullet-proof body armour. Do you?  

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    Re: Bringing Guns to Church
    « Reply #14 on: January 02, 2019, 10:53:45 AM »
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  • At my SSPX chapel, I have seen or heard of the following things:

    1) Gang fight on the front sidewalk (with pitbulls, pipes, and all), so that the parishioners couldn't leave, and we wondered whether the fight would spill into the Church;

    2) A guy pulled out a hammer and started pounding away at the pulpit until he got jumped by the faithful;

    3) A month ago, an off duty cop had to subdue some weirdo who came into the church yelling loudly in the vestibule, causing the ushers to grab the attention of the cop to handle the situation;

    4) Related to #1, sketchy drug addicts living right next door to church, once causing the priest I was with to fear to walk past them to his lodgings.  Because I was open carrying that day, I was able to escort him;

    5) One guy, a professional lech, tried to move in on my mother, and was pressuring her to let him live with her.  I was about to body slam him in the church basement when the priest called us into his office and banned him from the chapel.  Wouldn't have needed a gun for that, but the point being that trads attract weirdos, and we are all targets.

    So I guess I agree with Quiddy: Better to have one and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

    Besides, unlike some other religions, I always got the feeling that the trad priests were reassured knowing several known and reliable people carried at every Mass.
    I don't think there are places that shitty in my entire country. 

     

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