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Re: Bp Pivarunas excommunicates New Priest
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2018, 11:19:50 PM »
What Crawford has to say is only titillating to those who already agree with him.  And barely at that, since a bunch of "his faithful" in St. Cloud just all decided they'd rather go to mass where they choose then only go to him.

He road the coattails of the CMRI around the country, subversively trying to establish something of a network of credulous laity who would support him once he came out of his Feeneyite closet. 

There's nothing civilized about him at all.  He's rude, condescending, impatient, and he writes like a middle-schooler.  That's before you get to his actual arguments which are sourced improperly, rely on fraudulent material (when they're not lifted out of context and brute-forced into new meanings), and so on.  Even if he actually happened to be an honest, decent person, you're still dealing with someone who is a philosophical and theological train wreck.
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2018, 11:31:16 PM »
Nice try, keep throwing your ad hominems.  But his little booklet is actually an excellent defense of baptism of water.  Fr. Crawford is a gentleman.  With integrity.  More than can be said for The Bishop who is afraid of him and who just keeps dishing up all the old, tired anti-Feeney arguments which those who look into the Feeney case and cause find out are trash.  Which Fr. Crawford found out - and had the courage to say so.        
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2018, 11:49:06 PM »
What do you think I was trying to do?

Have you hitched your wagon to Crawford?  Didn't you learn from what's happened already?  You realize he was kicked out of his "headquarters", yes, for being a nuisance?  That he has a pretty awful habit of hubris, exhibited by him stupidly overplaying his hand in St. Cloud and also in Southern Minnesota, in both instances not only failing to "win over" those who wanted nothing to do wit him but even alienating those who were initially excited about him?

The problems with this man go beyond doctrine and his doubtful validity-- not that those problems can be set aside-- and they go to basic character and decency.  And I'm not just talking about the fraudulent quotes in his cute little booklet, the quotes that aren't from where he says they are and that don't say what he says they say.  He's got a bad streak, this one.  Sorry to rain on the parade.  Hopefully you'll see it before you suffer too much under his rotten yoke.  Good luck.
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2018, 12:06:34 AM »
Quote from: Anonymous on June 10, 2018, 11:49:06 PM
What do you think I was trying to do?

Have you hitched your wagon to Crawford?  Didn't you learn from what's happened already?  You realize he was kicked out of his "headquarters", yes, for being a nuisance?  That he has a pretty awful habit of hubris, exhibited by him stupidly overplaying his hand in St. Cloud and also in Southern Minnesota, in both instances not only failing to "win over" those who wanted nothing to do wit him but even alienating those who were initially excited about him?

The problems with this man go beyond doctrine and his doubtful validity-- not that those problems can be set aside-- and they go to basic character and decency.  And I'm not just talking about the fraudulent quotes in his cute little booklet, the quotes that aren't from where he says they are and that don't say what he says they say.  He's got a bad streak, this one.  Sorry to rain on the parade.  Hopefully you'll see it before you suffer too much under his rotten yoke.  Good luck.
Nuisance nothing.  He tried to get a hearing, to charitably discuss the Feeney/NFP issues - but it was "see ya later" from the CMRI.  I am under no one's yoke - but I am familiar with his case.  You defame his character.  And keep throwing the garbage at his excellent booklet - it won't stick.  May God have mercy on the CMRI which claims to represent Him.  What a cult.  
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Re: Bp Pivarunas excommunicates New Priest
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2018, 12:07:30 AM »
The trouble with these anonymous threads is that they usually contain gossip.

Gossip concerning priests is reprehensible.
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