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Re: Borderline Personality
« Reply #20 on: Today at 10:56:06 AM »
Anonymous wrote: "Father' Ripperger is not a real priest, he also gives dangerous advice like promoting deliverance prayers."

Deliverance prayers are part and parcel of what the Church has always done and always taught.  Laity have done "deliverance" - which is a lesser kind of healing.  

And then some - yes - have even have performed actual exorcisms [this was before the Rite of Exorcism was consigned to priests alone] yet these saintly laypeople had a charism to do even this.  

"There is a long history of specially gifted laity with a charism of casting out demons.   St. Hildegard of Bingen, doctor of the church, was asked by the abbot of Brauweiler to exorcize a noblewoman from Cologne who had been possessed for seven years.  The priests had been unsuccessful and the demons claimed that only the saint could personally cast them out... which she did.


St. Catherine of Siena, also a doctor of the church, is likewise famous for her role as an exorcist. She detested doing exorcisms saying, "Alas! Every day I am tormented by evil spirits: do you think I want anybody else's?" Satan himself called her, "The greatest enemy I have in the whole world."**  It was said that if the priests could not exorcize the demons, they would bring the possessed to St. Catherine who did. 



Of course, the female exorcist par excellence is the Blessed Virgin Mary...  


The Church appoints priests as exorcists.  They are often older men, and specifically trained for this ministry.  But the Church has long recognized a charism for casting out demons among the laity."



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Re: Borderline Personality
« Reply #21 on: Today at 10:59:00 AM »
Lot of anonymous doctors here…
Yep.     OP's original post smacks of an authority she has relegated to herself to "determine this woman's problem", "diagnose".    Odd. 


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Re: Borderline Personality
« Reply #22 on: Today at 11:27:26 AM »
OP here.

The family in question, by all appearances, is very pious. I assume their diet is good, most of what they eat they source themselves. They have a small farm.

I used the term BPD just because it's the most convenient way to indicate a collection of behaviors-- regardless of the veracity of BPD clinically speaking.

To the poster who asked about just telling her the truth, I do think this is necessary. It isn't my place though, I think we need to bring it to her husband. I'm not sure how receptive he will be, he has his own issues (many of which I think are caused by his wife's behavior). Do pray for this family.
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Re: Borderline Personality
« Reply #23 on: Today at 11:50:18 AM »
OP here.

The family in question, by all appearances, is very pious. I assume their diet is good, most of what they eat they source themselves. They have a small farm.

I used the term BPD just because it's the most convenient way to indicate a collection of behaviors-- regardless of the veracity of BPD clinically speaking.

To the poster who asked about just telling her the truth, I do think this is necessary. It isn't my place though, I think we need to bring it to her husband. I'm not sure how receptive he will be, he has his own issues (many of which I think are caused by his wife's behavior). Do pray for this family.
I can think of several psychological reasons why she would tell the things you described, aside from being a liar, in the sense of someone consciously choosing to lie to others.

One of them could be that she blurts out every stray thought she has, even if they are nonsensical. Stray thoughts can often sound completely insane to an outsider. Most people suppress those stray thoughts and know not to take them seriously. Imagine someone who acts on their stray thoughts without filtering them, they would look insane from an outsider point of view. 

Another reason would be that she does not mean what her words seem to say, because she has unconventional thinking. As an example, by "my husband is dying", she could mean spiritual death rather than physical death, so to her it didn't sound like a lie. She could also be grossly exaggerating by habit. 

Another one is that she wants to catch the intention of her interlocutor somehow, so she says something to catch their intention even if it's insane, and once she has their attention she doesn't keep up with the lie. 

This isn't necessarily a mental pathology, in the common sense of the word. She could have some sort of eccentric personality type. 

I do not have any medical authority, of course, however I am someone deeply interested in neurosciences and psychiatry and I often read books on the subject. 

In the end, those are simply my speculations based on the very little evidence you gave us. 

In the meantime, the best is to not get upset by her behaviour. There isn't much you can do about it, but you can at least avoid suffering from headaches. 



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Re: Borderline Personality
« Reply #24 on: Today at 02:00:04 PM »
I can think of several psychological reasons why she would tell the things you described, aside from being a liar, in the sense of someone consciously choosing to lie to others.

One of them could be that she blurts out every stray thought she has, even if they are nonsensical. Stray thoughts can often sound completely insane to an outsider. Most people suppress those stray thoughts and know not to take them seriously. Imagine someone who acts on their stray thoughts without filtering them, they would look insane from an outsider point of view.

Another reason would be that she does not mean what her words seem to say, because she has unconventional thinking. As an example, by "my husband is dying", she could mean spiritual death rather than physical death, so to her it didn't sound like a lie. She could also be grossly exaggerating by habit.

Another one is that she wants to catch the intention of her interlocutor somehow, so she says something to catch their intention even if it's insane, and once she has their attention she doesn't keep up with the lie.

This isn't necessarily a mental pathology, in the common sense of the word. She could have some sort of eccentric personality type.

I do not have any medical authority, of course, however I am someone deeply interested in neurosciences and psychiatry and I often read books on the subject.

In the end, those are simply my speculations based on the very little evidence you gave us.

In the meantime, the best is to not get upset by her behaviour. There isn't much you can do about it, but you can at least avoid suffering from headaches.
Has anyone considered that the woman might be telling the Truth?