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Hello Simeon,

Your Reply #51 expresses exceeding frustration with the negative posts on this thread but more so with the stubborn arguing of some sedevacantist clergy. If you were grieved to witness this opposition to the imperfect council, think what many others are feeling, I am thinking especially those in the pews of these arguing clergy. While there has been much division since V-II, Bishop Roy has ignited a firestorm. I believe with Fulton Sheen: "Who will save the Church? Not our Bishops, not our priests and religious. It is up to the people. You have the minds, the eyes, the ears to save the Church. Your mission is to see that your priests act like priests, your bishops like bishops and your religious act like religious."

I have posted this before that the laity are commanded by the Church, "to confess at least once a year to a duly authorized priest."
To help put this Commandment of the Church in perspective one needs to know that while the Japanese were without Catholic priests for two centuries the Faith did not die out. According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, when the missionaries were allowed to return, they were met by descendants of martyrs who asked three questions, the authority of the Pope of Rome, the veneration of the Blessed Virgin, and the celibacy of the clergy. We can know that had the clergy answered that they did not submit to the Pope of Rome, these Japanese would have continue living without the priestly sacraments. This is how important this Commandment is to maintain the unity of the Church. And if the people will obey this Commandment today and demand that their clergy become authorized, the negativity and foot dragging of the clergy will end. 

Some have said that it will take a miracle for this Council to succeed. It will only take for the laity to make their clergy act like clergy, call that the miracle if you will.
  








  

Without breaking papal succession.

Just a wrench in the spoke wheel here  . Yes Apostolic lineage of paramount criteria / requirement. This proposed ""meeting"" has very high odds against any fruition. It would be more realistic to contact [ convert]  the 119 Cardinal electors and beg for a new Papal election ( 2/3 majority would be only 119 x 0.666 equals 79 votes).  Or if they expect to attract a sufficient number of bishops , 2/3 again, out of 5340 bishops teaching today, that means about 3556 genuine, true ,real, zealous, valid bishops.

Wellllll, just write letters to the cardinals, correct them to their face, dat would be doable, God intervening; miracles , Pray x 3

Sedeism is just someone's personal opinion, ie a bishop in his diocese with full jurisdiction ,  and these matters require principles, not opinions. Constituitions also dictate procedures to remain Catholic. Not too wise to invent tactics after nearly 2000 years of Catholicism.

Hey! CI info could host a PETITION and wake up the Card...s

Fulton Sheen had many books that he wrote.  Oh, they sounded good, but he was a silent communist.  He sure knew his communism when he wrote about it.  But what was his solution, "pick the right candidate".