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Traditional Catholic Faith => Anσnymσus Posts Allowed => Topic started by: Änσnymσus on May 07, 2017, 11:35:40 AM
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Looking for anyone out there who knows of Bishop Robert Dymek. I am actually one of his children, and this past week, was advised by an attorney in KY that he had passed away (conjestive heart failure). My siblings and I have not spoken to out father in always 20 years, as he was always a hermit. We have tried to reach out to him over the years, but the trail has always gone cold (he was never a fan of cell phones or computers). To find out this past week that he became a priest and then a bishop stunned us all. We all hope he helped others these past years, but seeing many posts, we also see that he has caused pain and suffering to others. If this is the case, please accept our sincerest of apologies. We are trying to put the pieces of the past several years. If anyone has any information or even pictures, we would greatly appreciate it. Thank you and God bless!
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It is my understanding that Bishop Dymek consecrated Markus Ramolla who may have the information you are seeking. His chapel's website is: http://ourladyofvictorychapel.blogspot.com/
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It is my understanding that Bishop Dymek consecrated Markus Ramolla who may have the information you are seeking. His chapel's website is: http://ourladyofvictorychapel.blogspot.com/
Thank you for your help. I will reach out to them.
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Ramolla is in Europe, and Ramolla attended the seminary in Brooksville, FL under Bishop Sanborn. Ramolla has a sour background to say the least. Question is who thought they did the consecration of Dymek. Maybe Petko? Still sourful backgrounds.
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Ramolla is in Europe, and Ramolla attended the seminary in Brooksville, FL under Bishop Sanborn. Ramolla has a sour background to say the least. Question is who thought they did the consecration of Dymek. Maybe Petko? Still sourful backgrounds.
Ramolla used to be in Europe. Whether he went back or not, I don't know, but the website above indicates he's back in the U.S.
He did indeed attend the seminary in Brooksville. He was ordained by Bishop Dolan. Bishop Petko did not consecrate him or Dymek; he is not involved here. It is my understanding that Dymek was consecrated by Bishop Slupski and it was Dymek who then consecrated Ramolla.
I agree that Ramolla is not a bishop I would trust for reasons I don't want to go into here. I know nothing about Dymek other than what I posted here.
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So, Ramolla has a site: read. Ramolla says he was ordained by Dymek. Ramolla says he regrets being around Bishop Slupski. Well, there are many!!! who regret being around Ramolla. Again, Sour full backgrounds.
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Thank You for the WARNING that Ramolla is state side. Seminarians from from Brookville can be ordained by Sanborn or Dolan. Some say it maybe a toss of a coin or what "looks" best. Ramolla "played" principal for SGG. And then Ramolla put on a show at Albert the Great. A show to make a seminary and OH, after the $$ comes, it doesn't work. Imagine that. I know a private priest who knows of the horror and I will NOT give him away, he to was treated bad. Thomas Droleskey was a part of the fun! A married man, made a priest and there is talk he is a bishop, go figure. But of course who wants to take this post beyond.
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Does anyone know the exact day Bishop Dymek died.
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It is an opinion, that Ramolla, was not to remain a principal. L. (former principal) was trouble as the SGG school had trouble and parents/parishners wanted something to take place. Ramolla comes in and after a year ? he is out and L. is back to being the principal. It just appears to me, that it gave some people to "feel" ($)for Ramolla, followed him to St. Albert the Great. Talk of a seminary to be formed,($) and it fell and off goes Ramolla ($) to Europe with a miter.
Such Sorrow!!
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Bishop Dymek was Holy and saintly man. He was desirous of the things of the Lord. He was competent in very many areas of ecclesiastical excercise, and was a fine witness to the testimony of the Catholic Faith in our time. He was very ascetic, devout, formidable at times, and gentle at others. He will be missed by many.
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Robert Dymek was my dad. Does anyone have any pictures of him?
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Ramolla is currently in Cincinnati. He just ordained someone to the priesthood and has another seminarian.
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Thanks again for the warning. I know an independent priest, personally there. I am sure he is staying clear of Ramolla and whoever he ordains.Ordains? He thinks he is a bishop, does he?
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Does anyone know the exact day Bishop Dymek died.
We were told a week as of this past Thursday. They were holding the body until family could be reached per the state of KY.
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We were given contact infornation for a Mr Payne at St John the Baptist Chapel in Louisville, KY. He was the one that helped our dad the past few months and was the one that found him. He said that dad was pretty much a hermit, and also knew his time was coming to an end. He had a hard time standing, and withdrew for the public about a month and a half ago.
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You are in circles! The Lawyer knows more than you?! How did he know to contact you? You have no picture of your dad!? Are you a troll? A man becomes a priest for 2 reasons: in youth a calling and those who have much to be sorrowful for become priest and are like hermits. You don't mention if "dad" is widow. The story is strange to say the least. It is almost obvious he is no priest and no bishop.
If you see above you will see that it has been almost 20 years since seeing or hearing from my dad. So to answer your question, no, I am not a troll. We had no idea that our dad was in WI for years, let alone KY. Mr. Payne contacted the attorney, as he was not sure about making arrangements. Per the state of KY, family needed to be reached and thats how the attorney searched and got hold of us. The marriage between my mom and dad was annulled in the Church many years ago, so he was cleared to become a priest if he chose.
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Who annulled? Dioceses? For what reasons?
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Who annulled? Dioceses? For what reasons?
Was annulled by either diocese of Trenton or Metuchen 15-20 years ago. I am sorry I don't know all the details, but I do know that this allowed my mom to re-marry in the Church.
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Well, if it was dioceses, chances may be that your dad was not available to marry Christ's church. His chances of being priest/bishop are questionable. You have no pictures? Very strange. Your mom is not living, I take it. You have other siblings, and they have no pictures?
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Regardless of what anyone thinks of Bishop Dymek, whether his ordination/consecration was appropriate or valid, or whether he was a good candidate or whatever, his actions and history aren't the fault of his children who haven't seen him in 20 years and won't be seeing him anytime soon. Harping on these children just isn't appropriate at this time on this topic.
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Regardless of what anyone thinks of Bishop Dymek, whether his ordination/consecration was appropriate or valid, or whether he was a good candidate or whatever, his actions and history aren't the fault of his children who haven't seen him in 20 years and won't be seeing him anytime soon. Harping on these children just isn't appropriate at this time on this topic.
Thank you. We never knew our dad was a priest or a bishop until the other day. We have pictures of him when we were kids (just saw a picture the other day of our Baptism and our First Communion). We have no pictures of him as a priest or bishop, and thats what we were hoping to find.
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It appears that the service for Bishop Dymek will be at 10AM on Thursday, 5/11, at St. John the Baptist in Louisville. Arrangements are being made through Highlands Funeral Home. Dad actually passed away on Friday, 4/28.
http://highlandsfuneralhome.com/book-of-memories/2922924/Dymek-BishopRobert/service-details.php (http://highlandsfuneralhome.com/book-of-memories/2922924/Dymek-BishopRobert/service-details.php)
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Yes, a very puzzling story. How could the marriage be annulled, if there were living children from a consummated marriage? Wouldn't he owe his efforts to raise his children? Abandonment of one's own children must be a mortal sin of the highest order.
I hope the children pursue their own salvation. Doesn't seem like a good thing to dote on this history.
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Was informed yesterday that Bishop Ramolla would be coming down to St. John the Baptist in Louisville to do the funeral.
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Thank You for the WARNING that Ramolla is state side. Seminarians from from Brookville can be ordained by Sanborn or Dolan. Some say it maybe a toss of a coin or what "looks" best. Ramolla "played" principal for SGG. And then Ramolla put on a show at Albert the Great. A show to make a seminary and OH, after the $$ comes, it doesn't work. Imagine that. I know a private priest who knows of the horror and I will NOT give him away, he to was treated bad. Thomas Droleskey was a part of the fun! A married man, made a priest and there is talk he is a bishop, go figure. But of course who wants to take this post beyond.
Does that mean Ramolla just took in the money that was intended for making a seminary but then didn't make one? Wow, how did he become a priest and then a bishop. Could you explain that.
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Well, Bp. Dolan ordained him and Bp. Dymek consecrated him. Bp. Dymek was consecrated by Bp. Slupski who was known to ordain married and unfit for priesthood men. That is why Bp. Ramolla dissociated himself from Bp. Slupski.
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I have just read this post from go to woah. I am so sad to hear of your father's death and what must be a great loss over the years of his absence from your lives. I will pray for your father and for you.
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I have a general question regarding this topic. When Bp. Slupski consecrated Bp. Dymek, he did not know or care that there were children being left behind/ abandoned? I know that I am going to get blasted for what I am about to write, but it seems to me that the Thuc Bishops are a strange breed of men, to say the least.
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To the children of Bishop Dymek
I didn't know your father. I don't think you are responsible for whatever he may have have or no have done. I just ant to offer you my condolences.
May his soul and teh souls of all the faithful departed rest in peace. Amen.
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I have a general question regarding this topic. When Bp. Slupski consecrated Bp. Dymek, he did not know or care that there were children being left behind/ abandoned? I know that I am going to get blasted for what I am about to write, but it seems to me that the Thuc Bishops are a strange breed of men, to say the least.
You can hardly be blasted anonymously!
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April 28, 2017
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I have just read this post from go to woah. I am so sad to hear of your father's death and what must be a great loss over the years of his absence from your lives. I will pray for your father and for you.
Thank you. Please pray for him as he is laid to rest today.
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To the children of Bishop Dymek
I didn't know your father. I don't think you are responsible for whatever he may have have or no have done. I just ant to offer you my condolences.
May his soul and teh souls of all the faithful departed rest in peace. Amen.
Thank you. May he rest in peace.
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TO THE CHILDREN OF BISHOP DYMEK: I DID know Bishop Robert Dymek...very well. He was a beautiful and holy man and we miss him tremendously. His funeral was yesterday. Please feel free to contact me via this thread and I will give you my email info.
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TO THE CHILDREN OF R. DYMEK: I posted that I knew him well but after reading some replies of others, who obviously did NOT know him, I'm sickened. I feel God is telling me to publicly defend a man we knew and loved. Yes, he was a hermit....for many years now. He was fully committed to the Lord. He was humble, brutally honest (even when we didn't want him to be) and loving. He genuinely cared about the souls of everyone. He always said "Lord willing" and "don't worry, the Lord will provide". He told us when we were wrong. He cried for and with us. Just being at the funeral was hard--however, it was a beautiful requiem Mass. His grave is atop a hill with a gorgeous view. I plan to keep flowers there. We miss him, always will. There will NEVER be another like him. Please contact me...do NOT believe the filth anyone (these folks obviously did NOT know him) is spreading or saying about him. He was nothing but a fully dedicated man of the Lord. We miss him dearly. How dare anyone speak badly of him. Contact me for my email.
PS--I am sorry this posted 3 times. I intended for it to show my screen name so you can msg me for email address.
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Looking for anyone out there who knows of Bishop Robert Dymek. I am actually one of his children, and this past week, was advised by an attorney in KY that he had passed away (conjestive heart failure). My siblings and I have not spoken to out father in always 20 years, as he was always a hermit. We have tried to reach out to him over the years, but the trail has always gone cold (he was never a fan of cell phones or computers). To find out this past week that he became a priest and then a bishop stunned us all. We all hope he helped others these past years, but seeing many posts, we also see that he has caused pain and suffering to others. If this is the case, please accept our sincerest of apologies. We are trying to put the pieces of the past several years. If anyone has any information or even pictures, we would greatly appreciate it. Thank you and God bless!
I would love to tell you how your father helped everyone he encountered. See my posts and please, please contact me. Thank you.
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I would love to tell you how your father helped everyone he encountered. See my posts and please, please contact me. Thank you.
Thank you for reaching out to us. I will message you shortly. It is good to have found someone who knew him.
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Bp. Ramolla is a pious priest/bishop. He is a good man. I witnessed the abuses that occurred at SGG under the leadership of Mr. ________. To say he was old-school discipline is part of the problem. He bullied those children, young and old alike. I pulled my children out- but damage had been done. It’s left a bad taste. Bp. Ramolla would have been a great addition to that school but nothing was done but to shoot the reformer - Fr. Ramolla, and use him as a scapegoat. It continues today. He’s a good and holy man full of zeal for Church. All this divisevness is truly damaging. Rash judgment abounds in traditional church because a lot of lay “canon lawyers” think they know it all.
None of us know the background of this Bp. Dymek, so let’s suspend judgement and pray for our fellow Catholics.
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And for the repose of his soul.
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Lord have mercy.
Lord have mercy.
Lord have mercy.
Most Holy Theotokos save us.
May he rest in peace.
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Picture of "Bishop" Dymek from his layman days (first on the left).
https://highlandsfuneralhome.frontrunnerpro.com/runtime/211063//include/site_storage/211063/DeathRecordStub/2922924/5001190.jpg
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And this says what...? He was married. He had children. I’m happy for them and hope the family did well. And who wants to throw the first stone here? This is brought out to condemn him? Was his marriage valid? Was there an impediment to it? I suppose there was a rift of some sort. Did Mrs. Dymek pass away? Are these children now Novus Ordo and don’t follow traditional Catholicism? And thought dad went crackers? And never stopped lecturing him? How many families are a bit distant because of the rift between Trads and NovusOrdo? Mine is. My very closest sister in law now distributes “Holy Communion.” She is very pope-committed and maintains I’m in a cult. I haven’t talked to most of my family for years for this and other various reasons.
Are we to judge by a simple photo?
As I recall St. Peter had a mother-in-law who was ill with fever. Acts of the Apostles.
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Bishop Ramolla is no good. I know an independent priest who was around him at St. Albert the Great. He let us know about Ramolla and I myself would stay clear of him.
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In the annals of CI lore, this thread has to be the weirdest of them all.
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Bp. Ramolla is a genuinely good man: very personable, friendly and of good humor. Cheerful. He is a very intelligent and dedicated priest and humble too. He received very good training from MHTS and SGG. His Mass is beautiful, not too long. Not too short. The chapel itself is very pleasing and in an attractive and safe location. Sermons are spiritually uplifting! He is an exceptional preacher! He’s trying to bring the sacraments to his flock despite some very big obstacles. Our Lady of Victory is a fine chapel. Good people. A blessing to Catholics. Deo Gratias.
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You may keep your opinions, sparrow. Those people of St. Albert the Great know how they were taken to the cleaners. Money for a seminary? That never happened?! Where did that money go?! That Flock of St. Albert the Great experienced an experience they care not to go through again! If anyone knows Ramolla they do.
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IMHO it could have gone towards the expenses incurred for an immigration lawyer, etc. just saying - before you accuse, convict and condemn in a public forum you should give the accused a chance to explain. Sounds fair, song bird?
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Here is the picture:
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Well, Bp. Dolan ordained him and Bp. Dymek consecrated him. Bp. Dymek was consecrated by Bp. Slupski who was known to ordain married and unfit for priesthood men. That is why Bp. Ramolla dissociated himself from Bp. Slupski.
I don't know Bp. Dymek at all. But "Bp. Slupski who was known to ordain married and unfit for priesthood men" is most certainly true. He wanted to ordain me when I was married with two children.
He is a good priest in many ways; I cite this as an example of what happens to priests who are alone for too long. Newly independent, Resistance priests take note!
I know at least one Resistance priest who has cited the Crisis in the Church as an excuse for him to be completely independent -- even though there are no less than (4) faithful, traditional, non-Sede, Resistance bishops he could follow. Have a problem with one or two of Bp. Williamson's opinions? Fine! Pick one of the other 3 bishops to follow.
What if one of his parishioners said they were going to attend the SSPX, Indult, or Novus Ordo because, "I'm stronger than all those who were brainwashed/corrupted/made to lose the Faith". What would he tell them? He'd say you can't go, because it would be pride to assume you are stronger than all the casualties that went before you.
But this priest (and others like him) are doing the same thing! They see all the casualties on all sides of independent priests who went more or less crazy (whether localized in one thing, a few things, or completely). But they think they will be strong and different.
I assure you that Bp. Slupski was a solid priest many years before he got consecrated. He preached against the Communists a bit often for our congregation, but that was understandable being as he experienced the full evils of communist Poland. In other words, his problems DID NOT START until X years after he stopped working with the SSPX (not saying you need to work with them, but a priest needs to work under SOME bishop or group).
According to Catholic doctrine, a priest is fundamentally a bishop's helper. We can't completely ignore that just because there's a crisis in the Church.
Priests are human beings, subject to human psychology. Every man starts to feel old age creep up on him as he hits 55, 60, 65... if he has no network of priests or stabilizing influence, he is apt to worry about "what will become of his flocks when he is gone" and that leads to all sorts of abuses: getting consecrated, having married men ordained or consecrated, etc.
If he had been part of a group, he would have been stabilized by force. Plus he wouldn't have felt as apocalyptic or "end of the world" if he knew dozens of other priests. He'd have a deep feeling that it's not just him. But when all you see week in and week out is your own self in the mirror getting older -- it's hard to override your strong emotions of loneliness with your intellect trying to override them with, "Come on, I'm sure there are some other trad priests out there somewhere..." The emotions would retort with, "Oh yeah? Who?"
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An "independent Bishop" is not going against his nature as a bishop. A completely independent priest IS going against his nature as a priest.
A mother homeschooling her children (due to lack of good Catholic schools, evil public schools, etc.) is not going against her nature as a woman. But a woman forced to work for a living because she has no other means of support for herself and her children IS going against her feminine nature (even though it's by force, and the right thing to do). Leaving her children each day to go work HURTS for a woman with an intact feminine nature.
In both cases, the damage isn't complete, certain, or immediate. But damage will be done, slowly but surely, over many years. There will be scars.
And in both cases, the person in question needs to get OUT of that forced/necessity situation as soon as possible. The woman shouldn't want to keep working unless she HAS to. Ditto for the "independent priest". If he can find a faithful Bishop to stay in contact with, one in the same country as him, he should place himself under him.
Matthew