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Re: Bishop Robert Dymek
« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2018, 12:02:31 PM »
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  • You may keep your opinions, sparrow.  Those people of St. Albert the Great know how they were taken to the cleaners.  Money for a seminary?  That never happened?!  Where did that money go?!  That Flock of St. Albert the Great experienced an experience they care not to go through again!  If anyone knows Ramolla they do.

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    Re: Bishop Robert Dymek
    « Reply #46 on: April 06, 2018, 02:09:49 PM »
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  • IMHO it could have gone towards the  expenses incurred for an immigration lawyer, etc. just saying - before you accuse, convict and condemn in a public forum you should give the accused a chance to explain. Sounds fair, song bird?


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    Re: Bishop Robert Dymek
    « Reply #47 on: April 07, 2018, 08:07:04 AM »
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    Re: Bishop Robert Dymek
    « Reply #48 on: April 07, 2018, 09:19:08 AM »
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  • Well, Bp. Dolan ordained him and Bp. Dymek consecrated him. Bp. Dymek was consecrated by Bp. Slupski who was known to ordain married and unfit for priesthood men. That is why Bp. Ramolla dissociated himself from Bp. Slupski.
    I don't know Bp. Dymek at all. But "Bp. Slupski who was known to ordain married and unfit for priesthood men" is most certainly true. He wanted to ordain me when I was married with two children.

    He is a good priest in many ways; I cite this as an example of what happens to priests who are alone for too long. Newly independent, Resistance priests take note!

    I know at least one Resistance priest who has cited the Crisis in the Church as an excuse for him to be completely independent -- even though there are no less than (4) faithful, traditional, non-Sede, Resistance bishops he could follow. Have a problem with one or two of Bp. Williamson's opinions? Fine! Pick one of the other 3 bishops to follow.

    What if one of his parishioners said they were going to attend the SSPX, Indult, or Novus Ordo because, "I'm stronger than all those who were brainwashed/corrupted/made to lose the Faith". What would he tell them? He'd say you can't go, because it would be pride to assume you are stronger than all the casualties that went before you.

    But this priest (and others like him) are doing the same thing! They see all the casualties on all sides of independent priests who went more or less crazy (whether localized in one thing, a few things, or completely). But they think they will be strong and different.

    I assure you that Bp. Slupski was a solid priest many years before he got consecrated. He preached against the Communists a bit often for our congregation, but that was understandable being as he experienced the full evils of communist Poland. In other words, his problems DID NOT START until X years after he stopped working with the SSPX (not saying you need to work with them, but a priest needs to work under SOME bishop or group).

    According to Catholic doctrine, a priest is fundamentally a bishop's helper. We can't completely ignore that just because there's a crisis in the Church.



    Priests are human beings, subject to human  psychology. Every man starts to feel old age creep up on him as he hits 55, 60, 65... if he has no network of priests or stabilizing influence, he is apt to worry about "what will become of his flocks when he is gone" and that leads to all sorts of abuses: getting consecrated, having married men ordained or consecrated, etc.

    If he had been part of a group, he would have been stabilized by force. Plus he wouldn't have felt as apocalyptic or "end of the world" if he knew dozens of other priests. He'd have a deep feeling that it's not just him. But when all you see week in and week out is your own self in the mirror getting older -- it's hard to override your strong emotions of loneliness with your intellect trying to override them with, "Come on, I'm sure there are some other trad priests out there somewhere..."  The emotions would retort with, "Oh yeah? Who?"
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    Re: Bishop Robert Dymek
    « Reply #49 on: April 07, 2018, 09:34:59 AM »
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  • An "independent Bishop" is not going against his nature as a bishop.  A completely independent priest IS going against his nature as a priest.

    A mother homeschooling her children (due to lack of good Catholic schools, evil public schools, etc.) is not going against her nature as a woman. But a woman forced to work for a living because she has no other means of support for herself and her children IS going against her feminine nature (even though it's by force, and the right thing to do). Leaving her children each day to go work HURTS for a woman with an intact feminine nature.

    In both cases, the damage isn't complete, certain, or immediate. But damage will be done, slowly but surely, over many years. There will be scars.

    And in both cases, the person in question needs to get OUT of that forced/necessity situation as soon as possible. The woman shouldn't want to keep working unless she HAS to. Ditto for the "independent priest". If he can find a faithful Bishop to stay in contact with, one in the same country as him, he should place himself under him.

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