:incense:https://youtu.be/qlBrsqqUsuI 1:40 part. Was the Mass “unclean” before Pius X?

Okay, once again, someone help me out here...

What, exactly, did Pope St Pius X do, to "purify" the Mass?  What changes did he make?  My assumption would just be "none".

If he called for greater participation --- as he said, "pray the Mass" --- that is not a "change" in the Mass itself.  I know there are various schools of thought on the desirability of a "Dialogue Mass", but I don't think that Latin responses, such as the altar servers make, are beyond the abilities of anyone with proper priorities who has a hand missal in front of them.  (When I served the TLM a couple of decades ago, I always had to keep one of those little "cheat cards" in my hand, after all, the priest isn't required to memorize his part, why should the server be?)  That is not terribly difficult Latin.  People learn how to do various jobs, play sports, drive cars, cook from recipes, do math, learn basic historical and geographical facts, knowing the basics of the TLM shouldn't be any different.  It's all about priorities.

St. Pius X made no substatial changes.  He did reform the Breviary and the calendar a bit.  It is true that sometimes over time, things get added to the Mass in an accidental way, such as Feasts being added, saints being canonized, etc., and with all the added stuff over time, there may be a need to "clean up" ... which is probably what +Fellay was thinking, perhaps unable to find the right English word (as Enlighs is not his first language).

So then he says that St. Pius X set the Mass back to what it was in the Middle Ages ... except I think that most would say that St. Pius V was POST "Middle Ages" ... and of course he makes no mention of the Pius XII Holy Week Rites and the John XXIII accretion to the Canon.  So, no, the Holy Week Rights and the Roncallian Canon do NOT reflect the Mass that was being offered in the Middle Ages.

St. Pius X made no substatial changes.  He did reform the Breviary and the calendar a bit.  It is true that sometimes over time, things get added to the Mass in an accidental way, such as Feasts being added, saints being canonized, etc., and with all the added stuff over time, there may be a need to "clean up" ... which is probably what +Fellay was thinking, perhaps unable to find the right English word (as Enlighs is not his first language).

So then he says that St. Pius X set the Mass back to what it was in the Middle Ages ... except I think that most would say that St. Pius V was POST "Middle Ages" ... and of course he makes no mention of the Pius XII Holy Week Rites and the John XXIII accretion to the Canon.  So, no, the Holy Week Rights and the Roncallian Canon do NOT reflect the Mass that was being offered in the Middle Ages.

This was mine also.  WHY is this in Anonymous?

, but I don't think that Latin responses, such as the altar servers make, are beyond the abilities of anyone with proper priorities who has a hand missal in front of them.  (When I served the TLM a couple of decades ago, I always had to keep one of those little "cheat cards" in my hand, after all, the priest isn't required to memorize his part, why should the server be?)  That is not terribly difficult Latin.  People learn how to do various jobs, play sports, drive cars, cook from recipes, do math, learn basic historical and geographical facts, knowing the basics of the TLM shouldn't be any different.  It's all about priorities.

I agree with most of what you say but it does pose a problem, at least for me.  Being in the choir over 50 years ago, we sang the responses so we knew them well, but we didn't know what we were saying in English.  One can learn almost anything by rote given enough time but are we truly praying?  We pray in the language we understand and speak.  Prayer involves a certain amount of emotion and when praying in latin or any language foreign it becomes devoid of both emotion and inflection.

When praying the rosary in latin which I've done, the vocal becomes like a background monotone mantra to meditating on the mysteries:  and if your mind wanders...how pleasing can that possibly be to God?  And how many people just pray in latin in public to show off?  If you stopped them in mid prayer and asked them to continue in English they'd be lost.  And then there's the whole thing about not knowing the language and mispronouncing the words and thereby changing their meaning

When praying we should speak to God in a language where we know what we're saying and saying what we mean.

During the Mass the altar server is there to speak on our behalf.  That's their purpose.  Let's leave them to it.  Then we'll have enough time during Mass to fulfill It's ends...To Adore, To give Thanks, To make Reparation and finally to Petition

At 1.45, he clearly says Pope Pius the FEEFTH. What is wrong with all your hearing?

And why is this anonymous.

He said St. Pius V, not the X. Also, he said nothing wrong in the video.

I found it very hard to understand him, and was just going by the subject line.

If he said Pope St Pius V, his comments are entirely unproblematical.