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« on: June 01, 2015, 12:07:05 PM »
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  • It saddens me so much that 98% of people around display such a disdain for babies and large families. Whereas before, children were worldwide considered heavenly blessings, nowadays it seems you almost have to endless justify having the 3rd child, and the more children, the worst it gets. It seems like a real persecution. Everyone is so polluted by the birth control mentality.

    How do you deal with the unpleasant comments of people everywhere, including your family members and friends about the size of your family? They almost make me feel guilty everytime with such comments like I'm doing something wrong just for being pregnant.


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    « Reply #1 on: June 01, 2015, 02:35:51 PM »
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    How do you deal with the unpleasant comments of people everywhere, including your family members and friends about the size of your family? They almost make me feel guilty everytime with such comments like I'm doing something wrong just for being pregnant.

    If they are married with few children just tell them that they are going to hell for using birth control.


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    « Reply #2 on: June 01, 2015, 04:17:07 PM »
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    It saddens me so much that 98% of people around display such a disdain for babies and large families. Whereas before, children were worldwide considered heavenly blessings, nowadays it seems you almost have to endless justify having the 3rd child, and the more children, the worst it gets. It seems like a real persecution. Everyone is so polluted by the birth control mentality.

    How do you deal with the unpleasant comments of people everywhere, including your family members and friends about the size of your family? They almost make me feel guilty everytime with such comments like I'm doing something wrong just for being pregnant.


    The whole of today's society is lost without the faith. They have no understanding at all. The things they should know about, they do not want to know about, and the things that are none of their business, they appear to care about, but in reality, usually they really don't care.  

    The truth is that most people really do not care either way, so try not to let it bother you. You must do what you know you must do, and remember that they are the ones who will ultimately regret their words and actions.

    Just be prudent and say only what needs to be said then shut up, and let Our Lord deal with them in His own time and in His own way.
     
    The more you practice this, the more their belittling tone or wagging tongue will simply bounce off you like nothing. Try not to let it bother you and before long, it won't even phase you.

    -Stubborn

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    « Reply #3 on: June 01, 2015, 04:21:27 PM »
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  • They just have guilty consciences, and so the heap scorn upon those who are doing the right thing.

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    « Reply #4 on: June 01, 2015, 04:33:47 PM »
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  • When my wife was pregnant with our third child, we both received numerous negative comments and "jokes" about needing to learn what causes them.  These comments came from co-workers, people we considered friends, as well as relatives.

    I just just blew off the co-workers.  Over time, our circle of friends have changed dramatically (now we are the people with the small family (five children).  Our relative are the only people who can be changed.  It took a lot of time, but they do accept us--though they still view us as the odd ones.  It really is sad.  



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    « Reply #5 on: June 01, 2015, 04:43:14 PM »
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    How do you deal with the unpleasant comments of people everywhere, including your family members and friends about the size of your family? They almost make me feel guilty everytime with such comments like I'm doing something wrong just for being pregnant.

    If they are married with few children just tell them that they are going to hell for using birth control.


    I wouldn't assume EVERY couple with a small family contracepts. There could be underlying medical issues or other factors, i.e. pregnancy being very difficult for them, that limit family sizes.

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    « Reply #6 on: June 01, 2015, 04:56:29 PM »
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    How do you deal with the unpleasant comments of people everywhere, including your family members and friends about the size of your family? They almost make me feel guilty everytime with such comments like I'm doing something wrong just for being pregnant.

    If they are married with few children just tell them that they are going to hell for using birth control.


    I wouldn't assume EVERY couple with a small family contracepts. There could be underlying medical issues or other factors, i.e. pregnancy being very difficult for them, that limit family sizes.


    This is true - in a handful of cases.  


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    « Reply #7 on: June 01, 2015, 06:29:48 PM »
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    How do you deal with the unpleasant comments of people everywhere, including your family members and friends about the size of your family? They almost make me feel guilty everytime with such comments like I'm doing something wrong just for being pregnant.

    If they are married with few children just tell them that they are going to hell for using birth control.


    I wouldn't assume EVERY couple with a small family contracepts. There could be underlying medical issues or other factors, i.e. pregnancy being very difficult for them, that limit family sizes.


    This is true - in a handful of cases.  



    Yes, I second that advice. Don't go up to someone and accuse them of using birth control unless you're sure -- for example, they criticize the size of your family :)

    I suppose anyone who ribs you about your family size -- I'd say it's open season on them. If you have the personality for it, be my guest.

    It's also true that the attitude towards large families depends on what part of the country you live in. In my part of Texas, for example, people are much more likely to be nice to your face, but talk about you behind your back. Maybe it's a southern thing? Seriously, though, around here people either A) are happy for you, B) pretend they like you, or C) don't care one way or the other.

    I haven't encountered much of the harshness I've read about on blogs.

    Actually, the worst I've received has been from a stepmother-in-law.

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    « Reply #8 on: June 02, 2015, 12:35:36 AM »
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    How do you deal with the unpleasant comments of people everywhere, including your family members and friends about the size of your family? They almost make me feel guilty everytime with such comments like I'm doing something wrong just for being pregnant.

    If they are married with few children just tell them that they are going to hell for using birth control.


    I wouldn't assume EVERY couple with a small family contracepts. There could be underlying medical issues or other factors, i.e. pregnancy being very difficult for them, that limit family sizes.

    The worst would be those with big families to say that having many children is a badge of honour compared to those with smaller families. Oh woeful pride. Yet I've seen with my own eyes that those with big families abandoned the Faith first...the irony.

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    « Reply #9 on: June 02, 2015, 01:02:26 AM »
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  • In his encyclical Humanae Vitae, Pope Paul not only condemned the use of artificial contraception, He also predicted the coming of this contraceptive mentality.

    http://w2.vatican.va/content/paul-vi/en/encyclicals/docuмents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae.html

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    « Reply #10 on: June 02, 2015, 08:51:47 AM »
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    How do you deal with the unpleasant comments of people everywhere, including your family members and friends about the size of your family? They almost make me feel guilty everytime with such comments like I'm doing something wrong just for being pregnant.

    If they are married with few children just tell them that they are going to hell for using birth control.


    I wouldn't assume EVERY couple with a small family contracepts. There could be underlying medical issues or other factors, i.e. pregnancy being very difficult for them, that limit family sizes.


    Indeed.  I know a couple at my chapel that has been married for four years.  They have been blessed with one child, but have also suffered two miscarriages.  People have made suggestions that they are using contraception, and it is devastating to the poor wife.


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    « Reply #11 on: June 02, 2015, 11:30:36 PM »
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  • I guess I'm blessed in that I've never cared at all what anyone thinks about me - and I'm not shy when it comes to saying it, either.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #12 on: June 03, 2015, 01:18:20 PM »
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    How do you deal with the unpleasant comments of people everywhere, including your family members and friends about the size of your family? They almost make me feel guilty everytime with such comments like I'm doing something wrong just for being pregnant.

    If they are married with few children just tell them that they are going to hell for using birth control.


    I wouldn't assume EVERY couple with a small family contracepts. There could be underlying medical issues or other factors, i.e. pregnancy being very difficult for them, that limit family sizes.


    Indeed.  I know a couple at my chapel that has been married for four years.  They have been blessed with one child, but have also suffered two miscarriages.  People have made suggestions that they are using contraception, and it is devastating to the poor wife.


    I hope those sorry excuses for Catholics confess their sins of rash judgment in the confessional. Do they think rash judgment doesn't exist? Or are they so busy they don't ever think about their spiritual lives or examine their consciences?

    I'm sorry, but there's something naturally repugnant about hypocrisy and gossip. For one thing, it's a sin of malice, not weakness.

    Getting drunk, fighting, fornication, angry outbursts, revenge -- they are sins of passion, which we humans with fallen human nature are vulnerable to. The devils don't have bodies, so they could never commit these sins.

    Blasphemy, envy, bearing false witness, slander, rash judgment -- those require malice, which is something we CAN share with the devils. The devils have malice, and so can we.

    So yes, sins of malice are worse in a way, because they are more "purely evil" and could even be described as demonic.

    What does it profit a person to think the worst of another human being? It puffs up our pride. Again, that's an issue the devils also struggle with. Welcome to the club.

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    « Reply #13 on: June 03, 2015, 01:29:12 PM »
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  • If someone told us we had too many kids, my husband would simply tell them to mind their own business and he wouldn't say it nicely, either.

    If someone told us we must be using contraception because we don't have many kids, he would tell them to mind their own business and he wouldn't say it nicely either.

    Depending on who it was, he might have a few other choice words of correction. A rude and disrespectful insult like that, imo, deserves a strong response. Don't feel bad about hurting their feelings or offending them.

    Me, as a woman, I wouldn't know how to respond when people say hurtful things like that- I'm not good with confrontation, which is why I'd tell my husband and he'd handle it.  I know I'd internalize it a lot more than my husband would.
    Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation: and to keep one's self unspotted from this world.
    ~James 1:27

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    « Reply #14 on: June 03, 2015, 02:03:07 PM »
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    I guess I'm blessed in that I've never cared at all what anyone thinks about me - and I'm not shy when it comes to saying it, either.


    Well, that is the thing. I get mad at myself for letting these comments get to me. They make me feel insecure and I detest the feeling. Usually I don't know what to respond so it is a very awkward situation. I must add that what makes it most hurtful is that the comments don't always come from strangers but from family.

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