Author Topic: Bella Dodd (Read 3224 times)

Änσnymσus · « **on:** August 28, 2012, 12:13:27 PM »

Is it true that Bella Dodd testified before congress regarding the communist infiltration of the Catholic Church?

Can anyone provide links and verifiable data?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #1 on:** August 28, 2012, 12:14:52 PM »

yes, she wrote about it and others did too, inc von Hildebrand

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #2 on:** August 28, 2012, 10:29:18 PM »

I THINK it was The Remnant who had the scoop? Bela Dodd published her memoirs, at any rate.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #3 on:** August 28, 2012, 10:39:52 PM »

Communists have historically been true fanatics and they were certainly capable of attempting such a mass infiltration.

I have my doubts it was strictly a Communist infiltration, though there is little doubt it happened.

The state of the episcopacy is such that one would have a hard time distinguishing this hierarchy from one comprised of Communist infiltrators.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #4 on:** September 01, 2012, 01:17:24 AM »

Dodd was a high Party official in the USA and told Catholics, following her return to the Church, that she had orchestrated, along with other Party members, the insertion of over 1,000 men into seminaries - with the mission to undermine Catholicism from within.

Those men came of age, and position, right at the time of the Council. She told listeners that they were men of real influence in the Church.

Her autobiography is available online.

As to her identification of those she alleged to have helped infiltrate the Church, I have no knowledge. Thus, evidence that would stand up in court may or may not be had.

St. Pius of Pietrelcina ( Padre Pio ) also worked at exposing Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ in the ranks of the hierarchy through a brother priest. Since Communism is in many instances a product, or ally, of Freemasons, that line of inquiry may be of use, as well.

The Vernona files and other KGB docuмents released following the collapse of the USSR may also be referenced if one is seriously looking into the matter.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #5 on:** September 01, 2012, 01:35:35 AM »

Since she played such an influential part in bringing 1,000 men under false pretenses into the Holy Church, why didn't she pass on the names of these men so they could be removed?

I'm not saying her story isn't true, I just want to make sure it is true before I start relying on it in polemics and conversations with NOers.

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #6 on:** September 01, 2012, 06:12:33 PM »

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Since she played such an influential part in bringing 1,000 men under false pretenses into the Holy Church, why didn't she pass on the names of these men so they could be removed?

I'm not saying her story isn't true, I just want to make sure it is true before I start relying on it in polemics and conversations with NOers.

Read her School of Darkness for yourself: http://www.scribd.com/doc/8634527/Bella-Dodd-School-of-Darkness

And who is to say she did not hand anyone an envelope?

Lastly, if she did hand over a list of names, or did not, it is entirely possible nothing would have been done and she knew that, or knew she would be handing a list to bishops or curial bureaucrats who'd do nothing and she thought it was pointless.

It wasnt like she was the *sole* case manager inserting agents into the Church or seminaries. The KGB had *direct* programs of their own (docuмented, available), not through intermediary 'useful idiots' like Dodd. And a classic feature of Soviet intelligence was to always have overlapping and independent 'fields of fire' and Dodd also probably knew she was one among several. The Soviets and international communists/bankers always employ redundancy-- any good intelligence operation does, lest your operation is discovered and you have to start from scratch. You always have a few irons in the fire, some real, some 'useful idiots' you can trade with foreign governments as a show of good faith or to draw attention from an op where the lid has been blown off and they want a list of names because they know you never have just one agent. It is good to have a few expendable ops 'handy'

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #7 on:** September 07, 2012, 04:45:40 PM »

Quote from: Iuvenalis

Quote from: Guest
Since she played such an influential part in bringing 1,000 men under false pretenses into the Holy Church, why didn't she pass on the names of these men so they could be removed?

I'm not saying her story isn't true, I just want to make sure it is true before I start relying on it in polemics and conversations with NOers.

Read her School of Darkness for yourself: http://www.scribd.com/doc/8634527/Bella-Dodd-School-of-Darkness

And who is to say she did not hand anyone an envelope?

Lastly, if she did hand over a list of names, or did not, it is entirely possible nothing would have been done and she knew that, or knew she would be handing a list to bishops or curial bureaucrats who'd do nothing and she thought it was pointless.

It wasnt like she was the *sole* case manager inserting agents into the Church or seminaries. The KGB had *direct* programs of their own (docuмented, available), not through intermediary 'useful idiots' like Dodd. And a classic feature of Soviet intelligence was to always have overlapping and independent 'fields of fire' and Dodd also probably knew she was one among several. The Soviets and international communists/bankers always employ redundancy-- any good intelligence operation does, lest your operation is discovered and you have to start from scratch. You always have a few irons in the fire, some real, some 'useful idiots' you can trade with foreign governments as a show of good faith or to draw attention from an op where the lid has been blown off and they want a list of names because they know you never have just one agent. It is good to have a few expendable ops 'handy'

Wouldn't that hurt the feelings of the "useful idiot"?

Mathieu · « **Reply #8 on:** September 07, 2012, 06:28:50 PM »

Here is a link to a good article about Bella Dodd.
http://www.christianorder.com/editorials/editorials_2003/editorials_jan03.html

I also was able to speak to Dr. Von Hildebrand at a homeschooling conference a few years back and she confirmed the truth about Bella Dodd for me. She also said that there is more information that has not been released to the public and we should pray that this is done. She would not say more about this, though.

I have an interview that Judith Sharpe did with a couple of fellows a few months back who both knew Bella Dodd as well.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #9 on:** September 11, 2012, 06:05:07 PM »

h ttp : // genus d o t cogia d o t net

Another website with her autobiography.

T MASS · « **Reply #10 on:** September 12, 2012, 08:04:13 PM »

I've read Bella Dodds bio, "School of Darkness," in which she talks of her efforts in behalf of the Communists working secretly here in the U.S. If my memory serves me correctly, she never mentioned in the book her insertion of young Communist men into Catholic Seminaries. But what she did do on many of her speking engagements tell how the Party had inserted these men into the Catholic Churches. Bishop Fulton Sheen told her not to name these men in public but rather make a list of them which he then turned over to the Vatican. This was told to me by a friend of mine, now well into his eighties, who went to hear Bella speak in NYC. I also heard a tape of her speaking which unfortunately, is poor in quality. I do believe the story to be true.
In a related matter, I wonder how many of your readers have every read the book called, "The Plot Against the Church", which was written just before the calling of Vatican II and, I'm told, was handed out to every Council Father. I'm afraid few Fathers ever took the time to read it as they fell into the "Plot" so well described.
Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us.

Belloc · « **Reply #11 on:** September 13, 2012, 12:26:19 PM »

Quote from: Mathieu

Here is a link to a good article about Bella Dodd.
http://www.christianorder.com/editorials/editorials_2003/editorials_jan03.html

I also was able to speak to Dr. Von Hildebrand at a homeschooling conference a few years back and she confirmed the truth about Bella Dodd for me. She also said that there is more information that has not been released to the public and we should pray that this is done. She would not say more about this, though.

I have an interview that Judith Sharpe did with a couple of fellows a few months back who both knew Bella Dodd as well.

heard that interview too, not sure why no one is willing to name names and "tear the mask off"

Pehaps, Alice will before she dies....

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #12 on:** September 13, 2012, 03:49:17 PM »

Quote from: T MASS

Bishop Fulton Sheen told her not to name these men in public but rather make a list of them which he then turned over to the Vatican.

And this list was never seen nor heard from ever again.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #13 on:** September 13, 2012, 04:16:56 PM »

People were too scrupulous in the past about exposing these noxious double agents. I think in part because we are afraid of just vengeance.

Mathieu · « **Reply #14 on:** September 13, 2012, 06:22:12 PM »

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heard that interview too, not sure why no one is willing to name names and "tear the mask off"

Pehaps, Alice will before she dies....

Yes, there are still many-a-thing that I do not understand at all...

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