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Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
« Reply #60 on: November 09, 2019, 09:50:02 PM »
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  • I wouldn’t waste my money on a teaching degree.  You don’t need that to teach at a catholic school (or you shouldn’t...find a school that does t require it).  You won’t get paid much and you’ll never be able to pay off the debt.  Either get a degree in something that pays well, or if you want to be a teacher, still get a degree in a “back up” plan (ie engineering or business or IT).  
    You absolutely do need a teaching degree to work as a teacher. I don't know about pay, that varies wildly from place to place(as does the amount of debt you'll have after college), but the working conditions are very good. Just about the shortest working days and longest holidays you can possibly get. 


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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #61 on: November 10, 2019, 02:49:28 AM »
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  • You absolutely do need a teaching degree to work as a teacher. I don't know about pay, that varies wildly from place to place(as does the amount of debt you'll have after college), but the working conditions are very good. Just about the shortest working days and longest holidays you can possibly get.
    Presuming you are the OP, would you go in for teaching to get "Just about the shortest working days and longest holidays you can possibly get"? 

    Are you really interested in nurturing children?  

    Have you checked with teachers just how much time you would have to spend n lesson preparations, staff meetings, parent-teacher meetings etc etc. And are you prepared to deal with all sorts of obnoxious topics like "gender identity" etc etc. even in "Catholic" schools. I don't think that teaching in a school would be just a bowl of cherries as your post paints it.
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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #62 on: November 10, 2019, 11:05:50 AM »
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  • Presuming you are the OP, would you go in for teaching to get "Just about the shortest working days and longest holidays you can possibly get"?

    Are you really interested in nurturing children?  

    Have you checked with teachers just how much time you would have to spend n lesson preparations, staff meetings, parent-teacher meetings etc etc. And are you prepared to deal with all sorts of obnoxious topics like "gender identity" etc etc. even in "Catholic" schools. I don't think that teaching in a school would be just a bowl of cherries as your post paints it.
    Not OP, sorry for the confusion.

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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #63 on: November 10, 2019, 11:19:49 AM »
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    You absolutely do need a teaching degree to work as a teacher. 

    You do if you are going to work for public schools or novus ordo/private schools.  If you want to teach at a Trad school, you probably don't (or shouldn't need one).  


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    I don't know about pay, that varies wildly from place to place(as does the amount of debt you'll have after college), but the working conditions are very good. Just about the shortest working days and longest holidays you can possibly get.
    Words of caution:  As it is now, catholics in public schools (especially teachers) are being forced to compromise their Faith to keep their jobs.  All teachers have to promote/allow all manner of immoral filth in the classrooms.  I've heard stories where this goes on all the time.  A TX district just ignored a bunch of angry parents, and will allow children to be taught all manner of LGBT and other immoral practices during "sex ed" classes.  I don't know how any catholic could save their soul and be a teacher these days.  (Again, that's assuming we're talking public / novus ordo / private school).  

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    Re: Being forced to go to a modernist university
    « Reply #64 on: November 10, 2019, 01:46:53 PM »
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  • OP here. I’d like to share an update. Thanks for all the advice since my last post.

     On All Saints Day I had to take a field trip to  a middle school in an inter-city area to observe public school teachers. Watching some of these teachers doing their job well made me think that this might be the career for me. I don’t think that this is naive, since one of the teachers I observed had a classroom full of disruptive students, but it turns out that this was his first year teaching. But, seeing the more experienced teachers do their job inspired me. Since then, I think that I might just end up continuing this major, and get a job in this field, even with the all the garbage I’m going to have to put up with. If I become a teacher, I would prefer to get a job in a decent Catholic school rather than a public school for obvious reasons. Please pray for me.

    Any further advice would be greatly appreciated.
    There are no decent Catholic schools, there hasn't been one anywhere in the country, probably the world for the last 50 years at least - unless you are talking about one of the trad group's / non-dioscean Catholic schools, which pay about the same as what you would make flipping burgers - if you're lucky.

    Take 5 minutes and listen to what he has to say.


     


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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #65 on: November 12, 2019, 05:28:58 AM »
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  • Sin and insanity is EVERYWHERE!  Once you leave the Catholic Cacoon of your own home (or bedroom?).  You can’t escape all you can do is limit your exposure, stay close to the Sacraments, Rosary, and scapular.

    It doesn’t matter if your in college, working on a job site, or even own your own business, Satan will pop up to temp you and mislead you.

    You don’t live on campus so go to class and get out.  Steal the “pearls” that you need to achieve your goal and leave the junk behind.  God will send good people your way, not everyone on campus is a snaggled toothed monster.

    I’m a doctor who spent 4 years in undergrad, 4 years in doc education, and 2 years in post-doc training.  Sure there is a lot of sin and temptation on a college campus but I see just as much at the hospitals I work in and clinics where I provide care.

    As St Padre Pio says...PRAY, HOPE,  and DONT WORRY!

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    Re: Being forced to go to a modernist university
    « Reply #66 on: November 17, 2019, 05:55:55 PM »
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  •  OP here. Thanks for all the info. I’ve thought about my situation again with this new advice in mind. There is another factor I should mention to clarify things. As of now, I can’t drive by myself to this university since I’m not good at driving in highways, which make up the majority of the route to this school. This results in me having to be driven and getting picked up by my dad. Because of this, I spend way more time at the university than I should. I think this influences my attitude severely because I feel emasculated by this arrangement. It makes me feel “trapped” since I could easily leave earlier on some days or come in later on others due to my class schedule. This also prevents me from potentially getting a job/internship, since I would not be able to provide transport for myself to get to this place of work. Even a job on the campus grounds would be tough, since I probably would not have enough flexibility on my schedule for it.  

     I brought up my desire to start driving to this university by myself to my mom, who said that I would not be able to do so until this summer. Humanly speaking, I don’t think I can wait until sophomore year to start driving there by myself. Also, on considering the advice given by several posters here, I don’t really desire to be a teacher anymore. I didn’t know that Trad schools don’t require a degree. I may want to teach in one of those someday. Also, switching majors might cause me to lose my scholarship money, so that option not be worth it. 

      I think I’m going to withdraw after this semester. No point in me going to this place to blow my parents’ money studying for a job I don’t even want anymore. I’m going to look into getting a blue-collar job in the near future. I’m not too sure which one, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to whoever linked the Mike Rowe video by the way. However, I would also like to know about any good religious orders to 
    make enquiries about a vocation. Can anyone provide any info on traditional religious orders? 

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    Re: Being forced to go to a modernist university
    « Reply #67 on: November 17, 2019, 06:00:10 PM »
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  • OP here. Thanks for all the info. I’ve thought about my situation again with this new advice in mind. There is another factor I should mention to clarify things. As of now, I can’t drive by myself to this university since I’m not good at driving in highways, which make up the majority of the route to this school. This results in me having to be driven and getting picked up by my dad. Because of this, I spend way more time at the university than I should. I think this influences my attitude severely because I feel emasculated by this arrangement. It makes me feel “trapped” since I could easily leave earlier on some days or come in later on others due to my class schedule. This also prevents me from potentially getting a job/internship, since I would not be able to provide transport for myself to get to this place of work. Even a job on the campus grounds would be tough, since I probably would not have enough flexibility on my schedule for it.  

     I brought up my desire to start driving to this university by myself to my mom, who said that I would not be able to do so until this summer. Humanly speaking, I don’t think I can wait until sophomore year to start driving there by myself. Also, on considering the advice given by several posters here, I don’t really desire to be a teacher anymore. I didn’t know that Trad schools don’t require a degree. I may want to teach in one of those someday. Also, switching majors might cause me to lose my scholarship money, so that option not be worth it.

      I think I’m going to withdraw after this semester. No point in me going to this place to blow my parents’ money studying for a job I don’t even want anymore. I’m going to look into getting a blue-collar job in the near future. I’m not too sure which one, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to whoever linked the Mike Rowe video by the way. However, I would also like to know about any good religious orders to
    make enquiries about a vocation. Can anyone provide any info on traditional religious orders?
    It's not 1950. You're not just going to walk in to some factory, shake a hand, and get yourself a nice blue-collar job just like that. Almost every job that doesn't require a degree or an apprenticeship these days is minimum wage. All those good blue-collar jobs in the past have either been automated or require some sort of apprenticeship/training now. It's a very, very bad and naive idea to withdraw before you have a plan in place for what comes after, other than "oh I'm sure I'll find a job somewhere".

    And while a Trad school's requirements might be different to a normal school, they still aren't going to recruit some random unqualified guy off the street just because he's Catholic. Maybe you should research what sort of qualifications/experience/what have you that they do require.


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    Re: Being forced to go to a modernist university
    « Reply #68 on: November 17, 2019, 06:53:40 PM »
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  • It's not 1950. You're not just going to walk in to some factory, shake a hand, and get yourself a nice blue-collar job just like that. Almost every job that doesn't require a degree or an apprenticeship these days is minimum wage. All those good blue-collar jobs in the past have either been automated or require some sort of apprenticeship/training now. It's a very, very bad and naive idea to withdraw before you have a plan in place for what comes after, other than "oh I'm sure I'll find a job somewhere".

    And while a Trad school's requirements might be different to a normal school, they still aren't going to recruit some random unqualified guy off the street just because he's Catholic. Maybe you should research what sort of qualifications/experience/what have you that they do require.
       Alright, I’ll look into that. I have the time to make a proper plan anyways.

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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #69 on: November 17, 2019, 11:37:07 PM »
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  • Is your scholarship only related to teaching?  No other degree?
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    Can you take some driving classes to get more comfortable?  This is a necessary skill that you need ASAP.  You might need it for your blue-collar job...which I don’t advise...not yet.  

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    Re: Being forced to go to a modernist university
    « Reply #70 on: November 18, 2019, 07:19:59 AM »
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  •  I think I’m going to withdraw after this semester. No point in me going to this place to blow my parents’ money studying for a job I don’t even want anymore. I’m going to look into getting a blue-collar job in the near future. I’m not too sure which one, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to whoever linked the Mike Rowe video by the way. However, I would also like to know about any good religious orders to
    make enquiries about a vocation. Can anyone provide any info on traditional religious orders?
    That was me who posted the video and if it were me, I think I would go for heavy equipment operator. For whatever it's downfalls, i.e. seasonal (depending on where you live) weather days off and etc., it is a field that can pay very well for a long time. Play your cards right and get some of your own equipment and go into business for yourself, you can do really, really well. Same goes for HVAC work - I could go on and on, but whatever field you pursue, give it time. Plan to "earn while you learn" which means don't plan to make good money for the first year or so until you know what you're doing and can get paid for being experienced.

     
     


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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #71 on: November 18, 2019, 08:31:25 PM »
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  • Manual labor jobs are not for everyone. My uncle is an amazing pharmacist.  He can rattle off drugs, drug interactions, and molecular compounds that will make your head spin...truly brilliant!  But don’t ask him to change a lightbulb, swing hammer, or change the oil in your car.

    Only you know you! You’re young.  Try a little bit of everything....academics...laborer...apprentice...waiter...cook....eventuallyy something will click.  You’ll feel a certain contentment that only comes when you are doing what God wants you to do.

    Always pray to know and follow Gods will.  He won’t let ya down.