Author Topic: Father Gregory Hesse (Read 28008 times)

SoldierOfChrist · « **Reply #30 on:** July 02, 2014, 09:39:19 PM »

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"Fr" Hesse is a Vatican II Novus Ordo "traditionalist" impostor.

He is an apologist for the conciliar "popes", going so far as to repeatedly publically lie for them to cover up their "public manifest heresy". Why not? He was trained and excelled at their phony institutions with all of their credentials. Of course he would defend them!!

Also, according to his definition in his defense of his and Patrick Perez' phony ordinations, every NO priest is valid. "Who says they are not?"

He is more dangerous than Francis, Benedict, and all the rest.

Who are you quoting when you say "public manifest heresy"?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #31 on:** July 02, 2014, 09:45:45 PM »

I am quoting Hesse who states that the heresy must meet his criteria of public manifest heresy but he refuses to admit that Benedict, for example had already done this. For example Benedict's statement about the "counter-syllabus"

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #32 on:** July 04, 2014, 12:37:59 PM »

I doubt Father Hesse would have ever supported the resistance.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #33 on:** July 04, 2014, 04:47:45 PM »

I found canon hesse's videos to be very helpful. I don't agree with him about the definite validity of the new rites, but I do agree with how he attributes schism to Rome and the new rites(which means they are not certainly invalid - or else some would be). I think that he is a very important figure. He should be considered and regarded as such by traditionalists.

FYI - he approached +Fellay at one point about a conditional ordination, but was coaxed by +Fellay to drop the point because +Fellay insisted that Hesse would have to have something like a positive or self convinced doubt about his ordination(which he said he did not - he simply wanted to tie up that possible loose end - the fact that many trads do not accept the new rites validity). He talks about it in one of his videos(I think it was a two part series of real footage of him giving a conference on the new rites). What that means is that for a brief period he had doubts about the new rite!

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #34 on:** July 04, 2014, 05:40:13 PM »

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I didn't care for him at all, he was rude, condescending, and an alcoholic. His public support for the new rite of Episcopal Consecration with regard to Stickler was nothing more than an egotistical exercise of an intellectual bully.

Fr Hesse liked his wine. So what? Are you some kind of prod puritan?

He also didn't suffer fools gladly, which endeared him to me, but (apparently) not to you. Why? Does it wound your pride to have to admit that such a formidably learned theologian and canon lawyer might know more about these subjects than you?

To hell with these calumnies: Requiescat in Pace, Pater.

I have no issue with wine or alcohol (in moderation of course). In my encounter with this man, he was a guest at a presentation with a mixed audience of high school student, young adults, families, and elders. He was directly asked by the host, a Jesuit, not to drink wine during his presentation; Obstinately, he ignored his host's request, and from the front of the room, throughout the entire presentation, he consumed his wine in a manner that was overtly indulgent. I was disgusted by the whole affair, as was my friend the Jesuit.

Please, tell your Jesuit friend to worry about his corrupt order of religious, instead of trying to stir up trouble when there is none.

Perhaps you are not aware, but a decent host places the comfort of his guests far above his own. That is the Catholic way.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #35 on:** July 04, 2014, 07:13:39 PM »

His video was sent to prison and that was where I first watched it. This, of course, after much deliberations with the authorities. I think apart from the religious friction they were afraid it would cause, they didn't favor him drinking wine in the video.

I think his talks were great though, despite what the prison authorities thought.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #36 on:** March 26, 2017, 03:51:35 PM »

I remember hearing Fr Hesse remark that the wine he was drinking was very good and had never given him a headache. That made me very curious as to the vintage of red wine he enjoyed. Does anyone know what type of wine Fr Hesse favored?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #37 on:** March 26, 2017, 11:58:05 PM »

Didn't matter, he drank his wine. Does he say his mass in 30 minutes? I remember him at Fr. Leblanc's, Our Lady of the Sun, many years ago. I first attended OLS in 1996 and he came before 2006, I want to say.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #38 on:** March 30, 2017, 09:14:03 PM »

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I thought he was styled as a Canon - was he not ?

Nooseph Polten · « **Reply #39 on:** April 01, 2017, 05:21:42 PM »

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I didn't care for him at all, he was rude, condescending, and an alcoholic. His public support for the new rite of Episcopal Consecration with regard to Stickler was nothing more than an egotistical exercise of an intellectual bully.

He didn't support anything in the new rite as licit, only as valid under certain conditions. And if you think he was rude and condescending you REALLY need to develop thicker skin.

Nooseph Polten · « **Reply #40 on:** April 03, 2017, 05:32:40 PM »

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"Fr" Hesse is a Vatican II Novus Ordo "traditionalist" impostor.

He is an apologist for the conciliar "popes", going so far as to repeatedly publically lie for them to cover up their "public manifest heresy". Why not? He was trained and excelled at their phony institutions with all of their credentials. Of course he would defend them!!

Also, according to his definition in his defense of his and Patrick Perez' phony ordinations, every NO priest is valid. "Who says they are not?"

He is more dangerous than Francis, Benedict, and all the rest.

"More dangerous than Francis", because why? Because he held the conciliar popes to be valid popes? Fr. Hesse exposed all the errors/heresies of Vatican 2, and publicly told people not to attend the new mass because it is illicit and against divine law. He also criticized the FSSP and ICKSP for their official acceptance of Vatican2. And you say he is an impostor besause he was not a dogmatic sedevacantist like you? Tell me, o holy theologian of the predestined, is St. Vincent Ferrer in hell for following an antipope during the Great Western Schism?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #41 on:** August 28, 2018, 05:15:49 AM »

My sincere apologies for resurrecting such an old thread. However, having read the rather awful calumnies/detractions spoken against Fr. Gregory Hesse in this thread (and I do believe them to be calumnies), I feel myself obliged by the 8th conmabdment to repudiate these calumnies by stating my belief that Fr. Hesse was a great Priest and Canon Lawyer and has veen instrumental in convincing me of the serious problems of the Novus Ordo Mass. Fr. Hesse was a Priest and, therefore, a superior and hence to calumniate or detract against him is not a light matter as far as I understand.

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