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Are There and FEDS at Your Trad Chapel?
« on: May 03, 2021, 12:38:58 PM »
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  • Do you suspect there are any infiltrators or government agents who go to your chapel and pretend to be trads but are really spies? Some people at my chapel suspect one of our servers of being a FED. 

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    Re: Are There and FEDS at Your Trad Chapel?
    « Reply #1 on: May 03, 2021, 12:42:40 PM »
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  • I think one of the ladies in the choir or possibly her daughter might be a plant, they always wear green. :fryingpan:


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    Re: Are There and FEDS at Your Trad Chapel?
    « Reply #2 on: May 03, 2021, 01:44:05 PM »
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  • FEDS?   How about converso jews at your chapel?   How many do you have?

    It seems almost every chapel has it's little group of jews.

    What is the chance they are fake converts, i.e., Marranos?

    If they are sympathetic to Israel, they are fake and need to be closely watched. 

    Keeping aware of what your chapel jews are doing is a universal Catholic practice.

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    Re: Are There and FEDS at Your Trad Chapel?
    « Reply #3 on: May 03, 2021, 01:48:00 PM »
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  • FEDS?   How about converso jews at your chapel?   How many do you have?
    We have one. He is one of the longest term members. He seems honest, except that he got the vaxx.

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    Re: Are There and FEDS at Your Trad Chapel?
    « Reply #4 on: May 03, 2021, 02:14:29 PM »
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  • With so many changes in the SSPX, I would not doubt if some at the top are actually infiltrators. 
    This neo-SSPX should be avoided.


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    Re: Are There and FEDS at Your Trad Chapel?
    « Reply #5 on: May 03, 2021, 07:24:16 PM »
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  • I don't know, but, I know for a fact that there are Novus Ordites there.

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    Re: Are There and FEDS at Your Trad Chapel?
    « Reply #6 on: May 03, 2021, 08:24:16 PM »
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  • I am glad that this issued is posted.  Our first encounter with infiltrators was in Edinburgh, Scotland.  There for 3 weeks visiting and each week in July saw trouble in SSPX. (July 2019).  Then spoke with people from Malaysia and they too experienced what we did. They said the word "infiltrators", then I agreed, yes!

    This should not be surprising, but the parishes need to keep note of being watchful, aware, and give them no attention.  

    What we noticed was women demanding not to wear head coverings, wearing slacks.  Then Priest having a homily on Christ present in both species. Then after distributing Eucharist, 2 people come to the communion rail, with white gloves and both receive wine.  (We know that a crumb is all needed to have Christ).  The next Sunday, Benediction after Mass.  After Eucharist, half the people left and never came back! Very sad, but that was SSPX in Scotland. We went as observers and we kept Our Sunday Holy.

    I know of a Traditional Church with independent priest being watched by New Order to report back to bishop of dioceses. That priest knew of it.  1986.

    I do think it should be an issue to speak of and how to handle it.  Ushers are very important to watch and to maintain dress codes and such.  Once they start, if you don't stop, they will continue.  You can start off "friendly" and how is that defined?  But you must nip things in a bud.  We know that Christ is Truly Present, then be sure to have greeters, and that they do their job.

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    Re: Are There and FEDS at Your Trad Chapel?
    « Reply #7 on: May 26, 2021, 11:29:55 AM »
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  • Do you suspect there are any infiltrators or government agents who go to your chapel and pretend to be trads but are really spies?
    Charity "thinketh no evil" (1 Cor. 13:5).

    Some people at my chapel suspect one of our servers of being a FED.
    What are the grounds for that suspicion?
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    Re: Are There and FEDS at Your Trad Chapel?
    « Reply #8 on: May 26, 2021, 11:40:34 AM »
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  • What are "and FEDS"?

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    Re: Are There and FEDS at Your Trad Chapel?
    « Reply #9 on: May 26, 2021, 11:42:02 AM »
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  • I think OP means "and Meds" as in, is anyone giving out meds at your chapel?

    Pretty crazy idea, never head of such a think.

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    Re: Are There and FEDS at Your Trad Chapel?
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  • A federal agent pretending to be a trad? It would take years of training to learn not only the doctrines that we believe, but to memorize the prayers and learn all the other things that we pick up over the course of a lifetime, that would be necessary to make a convincing act of being a trad.
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    Do you really think spooks take classes at Langley on which saint to pray to to help your cat get better, or where the Council of Trent was held, or the story of the 40 Holy Martyrs? Or how much of an indulgence you get for saying the rosary? Any trad's head is crammed with those and similar facts, which as I said could only take a lifetime to acquire.
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    The idea seems borderline impossible, so unless the person you suspect of this is wearing a discreet earpiece and seems to be receiving verbal cues from it when he's talking to you, I wouldn't worry about it.


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    Re: Are There and FEDS at Your Trad Chapel?
    « Reply #11 on: May 26, 2021, 10:18:03 PM »
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    Any trad's head is crammed with those and similar facts, which as I said could only take a lifetime to acquire.
    I think you overestimate the avg trad.  By a lot. 

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    Re: Are There and FEDS at Your Trad Chapel?
    « Reply #12 on: May 26, 2021, 10:27:31 PM »
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  • Nah. The feds hang out on innernet forums. For some reason they usually use hairy animals as avatars.

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    Re: Are There and FEDS at Your Trad Chapel?
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  • A federal agent pretending to be a trad? It would take years of training to learn not only the doctrines that we believe, but to memorize the prayers and learn all the other things that we pick up over the course of a lifetime, that would be necessary to make a convincing act of being a trad.
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    Do you really think spooks take classes at Langley on which saint to pray to to help your cat get better, or where the Council of Trent was held, or the story of the 40 Holy Martyrs? Or how much of an indulgence you get for saying the rosary? Any trad's head is crammed with those and similar facts, which as I said could only take a lifetime to acquire.
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    The idea seems borderline impossible, so unless the person you suspect of this is wearing a discreet earpiece and seems to be receiving verbal cues from it when he's talking to you, I wouldn't worry about it.
    Good points.  However, as we have seen in the infiltrations of various sects in recent history, the typical strategy would not be to train a fed to fein Catholicism.  Rather,  they would likely lure a weak Catholic into some sort of trap (think firearm infringement a la ruby řidge) and then use him as an informant in lieu of jail time.  I believe this is possible, especially as things ratchet up in terms of repression, and our Religion becomes more and more apparent to them as a conspicuous group refusing to comply.  Also, with the "january 6th comission" being headed by the ADL - who has traditional Catholics explicitly and publicly in their crosshairs - I think it very likely indeed.
    The main unherent safeguard against this is the confessional, since any practicing Catholic (one regular enough to prove an asset to the enemy) who found himself in this situation would certainly confess to what transpired.  I believe any priest worth his salt would withhold absolution until the snitch fixed the problem as best he could.
    I know for a fact that Kansas City's SSPX had some sort of snitch report them to the self-appointed medical authorities due to a lack of masks... surely the big acronym agencies have their eyes on us as well...  especially when the ADL is involved, as they despise Christ and His Church.

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    Re: Are There and FEDS at Your Trad Chapel?
    « Reply #14 on: May 26, 2021, 11:39:19 PM »
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  • I can tell you that a few weeks a go, the more obvious Fed-Neocaths were shilling for Bruce Kardashian. 

    They also tend to over-focus on issues like abortion, while going on the attack against "racists" and other bogeymen counting on the spirit of self-righteousness of a few other to join in. 

    Do you suspect there are any infiltrators or government agents who go to your chapel and pretend to be trads but are really spies? Some people at my chapel suspect one of our servers of being a FED.

    Feds don't usually get directly involved unless the group becomes too large. What they do is look for people with higher aspirations but who have stronger narcissistic tendencies and are unfamiliar with cosmopolitanism and realpolitik. On the old ABLF forum, Tele and PereJoseph discussed this about Bishop Fellay.   
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