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Offline Everlast22

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Re: Are some men broken as well?
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2026, 10:12:47 AM »
In the last 2 years, I've seen about 5 couples get married where the guy IS NOT ready to be married, mostly in the financial end of things. 

Guys, unless you have resources and money at a young age, you are not being prudent getting married young. Don't think you're the exception to the rule.. You aren't. 

The amount of women willing to live dirt cheap and thrifty is incredibly low, even among "trad" Caths. 

Keep the play in front of you, guys.

Re: Are some men broken as well?
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2026, 10:21:28 AM »
Try fostering first. You can be a great help to kids who really need it.
I'll start fostering. The requirements as far as I know are show proof of income for 1 year, proof of residence for one year, and don't be a convicted felon or anything else. The only thing I'm a little unsure of is how willing an average case worker would be to let a single man adopt in our modern climate. Bit of an irrational fear because I have points on my resume, I'm clean cut and people can sense a celibate man whether or not they know that's what they're picking up. So no fear of the children being allowed to be hurt, or abandoned, or neglected after I fit the first two criteria. After I move in to where I'm sure I'm going to call home for the next 15+ years, I'll get the ball rolling on fostering, then move to adopting full time. Last name change and all that.

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I don't mean to be offensive when I say I care about children more than I care about a spouse, I absolutely do 100%, but that doesn't mean I dislike women at all. Our Lady is far, far, far, above any woman who has existed before or after her. She is Queen of Heaven and earth, and is blessed among women. Our Lady and all other women are entirely separate. To pretend they're even close is a heresy. 

Without women there can be no conception. Without women a child may grow up malnourished. Without women, who will have the sensitivity of soul to notice when a child is secretly in pain, or crying across the home. All of these things are important. As important as my babies? never. 

Let me make it extremely clear. I would never, ever have a baby and then separate it from it's mother. I would never separate myself from my child. We are talking about foster children. These kids have been through the ringer already, no family. If you've ever worked with them you know how grateful they are, especially before they reach teenage, to have somebody to look up to, to care, to listen, to give them productive tasks to help them grow. 

My question never was, what is the point of a mother? My question is: what does an adopted child need, outside of what I can provide? That means a woman, a maid, etc. I'm willing to get dirty, spend hours sleepless for a child in need, I don't need that task split up. That begs the question, why can I not, morally, logistically, care for adoptive children on my own, especially if the courts allow it? 


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Re: Are some men broken as well?
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2026, 10:34:37 AM »
In the last 2 years, I've seen about 5 couples get married where the guy IS NOT ready to be married, mostly in the financial end of things.

Guys, unless you have resources and money at a young age, you are not being prudent getting married young. Don't think you're the exception to the rule.. You aren't.

The amount of women willing to live dirt cheap and thrifty is incredibly low, even among "trad" Caths.

Keep the play in front of you, guys.
I get what you're saying, we have to be prudent, but catholics aren't controlled by money.  If marriage is a vocation (and it is), then it is a calling by God.  If it is a calling by God, then you don't say "no", you say "Yes, Lord." 

I think too often we don't bat an eye if someone joins a monastery where people are sleeping on cots and only eat oatmeal and fruit.  "Well, that's God's will".   Why isn't the same true of marriage?  I know practically speaking, people are WAY too material these days (even Trads), but such a leap of faith should happen in marriage, just like in religious life.

One could argue the contrary, where if you wait to be financially secure, then you will necessarily attract ...women who care about being financially secure.  You're almost inviting the materialistic spouse which you tried to avoid by being financially secure.

If you marry young, and are poor, both spouses know the situation.  Hard to blame the guy for being poor, when the woman knew it right from the start.  

There's pros and cons to everything, but we catholics aren't supposed to worry about $, we are supposed to live the Faith, and then God will provide.  Marrying when God wants, with HIS PLAN, is what our Faith tells us to do.  There is no catholic rule of "financial security".  Firstly, because such a thing doesn't exist (no one is ever secure).  Secondly, because all money comes from God.  You can marry poor and end up wealthy.  I've seen it time and time again.  Thirdly, we are supposed to be "poor in spirit" anyways.  If we have $, it's not ours, it's Gods.  Don't ever make decisions based on $.  Especially when it comes to vocations, which marriages are.

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Re: Are some men broken as well?
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2026, 10:39:55 AM »
I'll start fostering. The requirements as far as I know are show proof of income for 1 year, proof of residence for one year, and don't be a convicted felon or anything else. The only thing I'm a little unsure of is how willing an average case worker would be to let a single man adopt in our modern climate. Bit of an irrational fear because I have points on my resume, I'm clean cut and people can sense a celibate man whether or not they know that's what they're picking up. So no fear of the children being allowed to be hurt, or abandoned, or neglected after I fit the first two criteria. After I move in to where I'm sure I'm going to call home for the next 15+ years, I'll get the ball rolling on fostering, then move to adopting full time. Last name change and all that.

For everybody:

I don't mean to be offensive when I say I care about children more than I care about a spouse, I absolutely do 100%, but that doesn't mean I dislike women at all. Our Lady is far, far, far, above any woman who has existed before or after her. She is Queen of Heaven and earth, and is blessed among women. Our Lady and all other women are entirely separate. To pretend they're even close is a heresy.

Without women there can be no conception. Without women a child may grow up malnourished. Without women, who will have the sensitivity of soul to notice when a child is secretly in pain, or crying across the home. All of these things are important. As important as my babies? never.

Let me make it extremely clear. I would never, ever have a baby and then separate it from it's mother. I would never separate myself from my child. We are talking about foster children. These kids have been through the ringer already, no family. If you've ever worked with them you know how grateful they are, especially before they reach teenage, to have somebody to look up to, to care, to listen, to give them productive tasks to help them grow.

My question never was, what is the point of a mother? My question is: what does an adopted child need, outside of what I can provide? That means a woman, a maid, etc. I'm willing to get dirty, spend hours sleepless for a child in need, I don't need that task split up. That begs the question, why can I not, morally, logistically, care for adoptive children on my own, especially if the courts allow it?
Marriage is a calling and so is child care.  As St Paul says, if you are unmarried, seek not a spouse, until the Lord moves and provides one.  The same thing ABSOLUTELY applies to children.  A catholic doesn't go around adopting children as an unmarried man.  This is such an inversion of order and is not catholic.

You post a lot of yourself (too much, in my opinion), but what you're missing in a lot of your ideas/goals is the purpose of God.  I can tell you infallibly that you're not supposed to adopt as a bachelor.  That's just so odd.  Donate time and money at an orphanage.  Teach catechism classes to youngsters.  And ask God what HE WANTS.  Your ideas on many things are way off.  And considering your background, you should realize that you need a reset, mentally.

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Re: Are some men broken as well?
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2026, 10:41:28 AM »
I'll start fostering. The requirements as far as I know are show proof of income for 1 year, proof of residence for one year, and don't be a convicted felon or anything else. The only thing I'm a little unsure of is how willing an average case worker would be to let a single man adopt in our modern climate. Bit of an irrational fear because I have points on my resume, I'm clean cut and people can sense a celibate man whether or not they know that's what they're picking up. So no fear of the children being allowed to be hurt, or abandoned, or neglected after I fit the first two criteria. After I move in to where I'm sure I'm going to call home for the next 15+ years, I'll get the ball rolling on fostering, then move to adopting full time. Last name change and all that.
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