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Author Topic: Are some men broken as well?  (Read 1658 times)

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Re: Are some men broken as well?
« Reply #20 on: Yesterday at 06:11:24 AM »
We've all heard about the "broken" women who are only attracted to exciting, toxic "bad boys" who treat them badly -- because of daddy issues, etc. leading to low self esteem. This is absolutely a thing, and many modern women fall into this category.
Some of these women even have the self-awareness to see it; they lament online how they know they're stupid, but they can't help being attracted to the worst men, and that all the good guys bore them and they force these good men from their lives.
Sad of course, but true.

But what about men? Do you suppose some men are "damaged goods" as well, where they can't maintain an attraction to a "boring" woman, a woman who is less than a 10, to a woman who doesn't look like the "standard look" all modern women go for with their makeup and other cosmetic appliances. Perhaps due to a history of using porn, or even just lots of time spent in the modern world, such that their ideal woman is this fake, pseudo-nine look?

Any based, redpilled man knows about how many Modern Women are picky and insist on 6' minimum height, 6 figure income as a minimum, and other outrageous standards, leading to them being single for life. But can men be too picky as well? I'm not talking about purity or virginity, those things are worth being a deal-breaker, even if it means being single for life.
But what about BMI or body shape? Not everyone has a "slender" build. Some women have a naturally rounder face, and/or they are built like a brick shithouse, to use a common expression. Not talking about rolls of fat, just big-boned. And yes, big-boned is absolutely a thing, it's just over-used as an excuse 95% of the time.

But beyond BMI, what about looks in general? What's wrong, exactly, with a more "ordinary" woman, especially if you're an ordinary man? We like to criticize modern women for being entitled, picky, and unreasonable. And for every 1000 such criticisms I've heard about various modern women, they probably deserved at least 999 of them. The red-pill community is usually right on the mark. But sauce for the goose is good for the gander.

Perhaps a woman who is 5'10" should rightly insist on a minimum 6' height, because she's tall for a woman. And it's natural for a man to be a bit taller than the woman. Likewise, a slender man might rightfully desire (or even need) a slender woman. As usual, we need to use common sense and apply our brains to our actual situation. There is no one-size-fits-all.

I don't think it takes actual porn use to be brainwashed by the modern world as to what an attractive woman needs to look like. But let's face it, many men are guilty of porn use, including many Trad men before their conversion to Tradition.
And let's keep in mind just how FUZZY the border is between movies/TV, advertising, and porn.
Here's the thing, a lot of "broken" people really have no fault: you might have had horrible parents and upbringing, or BPD, or autism, or OCD, or just be a very eccentric person, or just about anything.

Sometimes even well-meaning people give off this vibe that marriage and having kids is great privilege instead of the biological imperative and what 99.9% of people through history have done. You don't have to become a great businessman and athlete and all that kinda stuff to marry and have kids.

And if you're a guy or girl with these kinda issues you can't really help, you're not going to get the "perfect" trad, you'll probably get a partner with issues like that too, and that's perfectly fine.

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Re: Are some men broken as well?
« Reply #21 on: Yesterday at 06:24:28 AM »
Here's the thing, a lot of "broken" people really have no fault: you might have had horrible parents and upbringing, or BPD, or autism, or OCD, or just be a very eccentric person, or just about anything.

Sometimes even well-meaning people give off this vibe that marriage and having kids is great privilege instead of the biological imperative and what 99.9% of people through history have done. You don't have to become a great businessman and athlete and all that kinda stuff to marry and have kids.

And if you're a guy or girl with these kinda issues you can't really help, you're not going to get the "perfect" trad, you'll probably get a partner with issues like that too, and that's perfectly fine.



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Re: Are some men broken as well?
« Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 08:00:43 AM »
Here's the thing, a lot of "broken" people really have no fault: you might have had horrible parents and upbringing, or BPD, or autism, or OCD, or just be a very eccentric person, or just about anything.

Sometimes even well-meaning people give off this vibe that marriage and having kids is great privilege instead of the biological imperative and what 99.9% of people through history have done. You don't have to become a great businessman and athlete and all that kinda stuff to marry and have kids.

And if you're a guy or girl with these kinda issues you can't really help, you're not going to get the "perfect" trad, you'll probably get a partner with issues like that too, and that's perfectly fine.
Actually in the modern world housing is very expensive and food is cheap (compared to historically). In the past it was usually the opposite, most of your money would be spent on food rather than housing.

A person might be able to provide for a family on a meager and humble diet but without a physical space how exactly does one raise a family?

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Re: Are some men broken as well?
« Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 08:02:20 AM »
Both sexes can repent of their sins and get to Heaven.  So I don't have any idea of what you are talking about.  St  Margaret Mary is an example.
That Saint didn't get married... Don't twist it or miss the point. Both men and women do take damage due to impurity but for women it's much worse than for men. And we're talking about marriage here not getting into heaven.

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Re: Are some men broken as well?
« Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 08:04:05 AM »
It is only statistically true to you if you have no idea how to be thrifty and no faith in the Sacrament.

Ridiculous standards from your boomer parents, with no willingness to sacrifice on the part of the woman.
It's is LITERALLY impossible to afford rent for most people on a single income. So unless I marry a women who wants to work full time it's just not going to happen. When rent is 70+% of your weekly income it just doesn't work.