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« on: July 22, 2013, 02:14:21 PM »
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    • A friend of mine said their priest refused to marry them. The priest said that it is the Catholic Church rules that he could not marry them any sooner than 6 months after they approached him about it. Also, in order to be married they either had to attend a weekend marriage retreat or recieve mentoring from a married Catholic couple. If they did not meet one of those two requirements they could not be married. The priest said that the rules did not permit him to do the counseling.

    I have not heard of this. Is this normal in the NO? It seems crazy to me.

    Anyway, my friends, who are not serious Catholics simply went and got married by a judge.

    The priest said once the 6 months was up he would "marry" them if they had met one of those two requirements. (Nevermind them cohabitating and fornicating up until then! RRGGGGGG!!!!!!)

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    « Reply #1 on: July 22, 2013, 02:19:49 PM »
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    • Traditional moral theology is out the window in favor of psychology and flat-out manipulation by control of access to the sacraments.
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    « Reply #2 on: July 22, 2013, 02:20:52 PM »
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    • Yes, this is 'normal.'

    The marriage retreats are a joke.  If your friends are not serious Catholics, the marriage retreat only would have convinced them to never be serious Catholics.
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    « Reply #3 on: July 22, 2013, 02:23:07 PM »
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    • Do they normally teach the couple how to use NFP during the six month waiting period?
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    « Reply #4 on: July 22, 2013, 02:23:17 PM »
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    Traditional moral theology is out the window in favor of psychology and flat-out manipulation by control of access to the sacraments.


    I know, it's infuriating. He upholds the "rules" yet does not acknowledge that he's basically giving them consent to live in mortal sin.
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    « Reply #5 on: July 22, 2013, 02:54:07 PM »
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    Do they normally teach the couple how to use NFP during the six month waiting period?


    Yes.  
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    « Reply #6 on: July 22, 2013, 02:57:33 PM »
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    • What is the normal practice for young couples in a Traditional Catholic Church?  

    The local novus ordo church in my area asks to be notified one full year in advance.  

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    « Reply #7 on: July 22, 2013, 02:59:38 PM »
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    What is the normal practice for young couples in a Traditional Catholic Church?  

    The local novus ordo church in my area asks to be notified one full year in advance.  



    Surely it varies. Though I've heard a lot of stories along the lines of the couple recieves counseling from the priest for up to 6 months though sometimes it can be much shorter if it seems as though the couple is ready.
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    « Reply #8 on: July 22, 2013, 03:01:10 PM »
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    • It's very non-traditional, very liberal in inspiration.
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    « Reply #9 on: July 22, 2013, 03:01:17 PM »
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    • So far as I know, my SSPX priest requires couples to counsel with him, personally, before he will marry them.  As for teaching NFP, I very much doubt it, but wouldn't know as I'm single and wouldn't dare to ask any couple such a question!  He strongly encourages six months' notice.  He says he has never yet had a couple split after following through on his program.  Before CI folks begin a dispute over the last statement, I may not agree with him on several vital points, but I've never known him to be a liar!
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     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #10 on: July 22, 2013, 03:24:20 PM »
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    • It's not so much the 6 months I have a problem with, but rather the "marriage mentoring".   I think that sounds pretty stupid. Especially in the NO. I don't have a lot of faith in lost sheep leading lost sheep.

    Though I think 6 months can be too much in some cases.
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    « Reply #11 on: July 22, 2013, 07:01:30 PM »
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    Though I think 6 months can be too much in some cases.


    It is no one's right to delay a marriage a minimum of six months just because he thinks that's the default hoop to jump through.  It is absolutely untraditional and is premised on liberal ideas about marriage.
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    « Reply #12 on: July 22, 2013, 10:05:48 PM »
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    • Novus ordo priests do less and less.   The laity are doing more and more.    Also it is about money with marriage retreats.   No retreats are hippy style.  
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    « Reply #13 on: July 22, 2013, 11:22:52 PM »
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    • I know one diocese where they require the couple to take at least 1 NFP class but the full course is optional.
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    « Reply #14 on: July 23, 2013, 12:27:38 AM »
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    • When we were married we had to take a computerized psychological test.  What a joke!  We also had to attend a seminar that was taught by protestants.  And the priest skipped the NFP (which is a requirement) because he assumed us too old to bear children.  LOL.
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