Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: Advice about older friends  (Read 900 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Änσnymσus

  • Guest
Advice about older friends
« on: November 11, 2017, 05:00:21 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I have a friend who was asking me for advice and I didn't know so I told her I could ask about it on an anonymous forum and she liked that idea.

    Her husband is in his late 70s and she is noticing that his driving is getting worse.  He has had a few minor accidents in the past year.  He does not think there is anything wrong with him and thinks she is the one with the problem because she is worrying about nothing.

    Neither of them is Catholic but she is pretty old-fashioned and wants to be a good wife.  She does not want to fight with him but she is afraid that next time there is an accident someone will get hurt.


    Online Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 41860
    • Reputation: +23918/-4344
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Advice about older friends
    « Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 05:21:15 PM »
  • Thanks!2
  • No Thanks!0
  • Yes, that's a very difficult situation.  I had the same thing with my own father who insisted on driving well past when it was safe for him to do so.

    I think that if it's a serious safety concern, she would be justified and well within her rights to "fight" a little, i.e. forcefully voice her disagreement and disapproval.  Arguably she might even have an obligation to do so.  Submission to your husband doesn't require that you submit to situations that compromise your safety or endanger others.  If the husband were waving a loaded gun around, even in the presence of children, the wife would be absolutely within her rights to forcefully object and even to remove herself and the children from that situation.  In fact, she would be OBLIGATED to break submission.  Vehicles are deadly weapons.  What if some innocent pedestrian gets killed?

    So sometimes there's not only a right but even a DUTY to disobey.  Let's not get too absolutist about obedience.

    So the difficulty isn't one of principle (the right to disobey or disagree or refuse submission) ... but it's a judgment call about when it gets to a point where his driving poses a positive threat to the lives of others.  In one person's viewpoint he might be just a little sloppy, but in another's it may appear as if he poses a real threat.  That could be a tad subjective.  If a number of objective third parties AGREE that he's gotten to the point of posing a threat, then he really needs to be confronted about it.  Yes, some older men can get EXTREMELY stubborn about this kind of thing as it hurts their pride and won't go down without a fight.


    Offline Nadir

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 11662
    • Reputation: +6989/-498
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Advice about older friends
    « Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 06:20:15 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0

  • Quote
    He has had a few minor accidents in the past year.  He does not think there is anything wrong with him.

    .
    Of course, depending on the cause of the accidents, he may not be rational. Has he seen a doctor? Can she have a quiet talk with his doctor?
    .
    Does your friend drive? It might be a hard thing for a man to admit that there are problems, and to cope with them, but it seems that somethings gotta give, hopefully with no danger to any road users.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    Offline DZ PLEASE

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2928
    • Reputation: +741/-787
    • Gender: Male
    • "Lord, have mercy."
    Re: Advice about older friends
    « Reply #3 on: November 12, 2017, 12:48:03 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!1
  • Being a good wife doesn't require taking needless risks with life and limb but, rather, doing so involves at least one sin.

    Being a good (x), is contingent upon the good, not the (x).

    Just politely, sans attitude, don't go. If he asks, just say "I'm afraid". If he asks why, answer simply, directly, meekly, and humbly. 

    Endure him "getting it", and let him sort it out, including determining a course of remedial actions; if he asks you, answer. 

    If he doesn't, zip it and be sweet. 

    The overwhelming weakness of women and children, provided they're real and not "wielded" like witchery, is not to be underestimated, forbids all "doing", and consists in simply "being".

    Catholic chicks are even "worse".

    "Lord, have mercy".

    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Re: Advice about older friends
    « Reply #4 on: November 12, 2017, 04:40:00 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • .
    Of course, depending on the cause of the accidents, he may not be rational. Has he seen a doctor? Can she have a quiet talk with his doctor?
    .
    Does your friend drive? It might be a hard thing for a man to admit that there are problems, and to cope with them, but it seems that somethings gotta give, hopefully with no danger to any road users.
    I'm the first poster who started the thread.
    The husband has some serious health problems that he is seeing a doctor for but I don't think my friend can talk to the doctor without him there.  
    My friend does not drive so it will be a big inconvenience if her husband has to stop.


    Offline Nadir

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 11662
    • Reputation: +6989/-498
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Advice about older friends
    « Reply #5 on: November 12, 2017, 05:08:22 PM »
  • Thanks!2
  • No Thanks!0
  • Suggest she  consider whether medication may be the cause of his (seemingly) poor judgement.

     
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.