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I do not deny the meeting.  I honestly have no idea if St. Pius X met with Theodore Herzel or not.  I will take your word for it at the moment and look it up later if I feel the need to.  What I am saying is that I don't care if he did.  

I am going to bed now.  If you are still have not been banned tomorrow, perhaps we can insult each other again.  

Of course, you dont care.

Parable of the Good Samaritan means nothing to you.
What is done to the Christians living there mean nothing to you.
The world, on the verge of collapse and facing WW3, means nothing to you.

You are no more Catholic than than those residing in Tel Aviv, on Occupied and Stolen Lands.

But just how in the world can you attempt to engage in an debate and know NOTHING about the hisory of Israel and its founders?
This is why we are doomed..Stupidity, Vanity, ignorance and pride.

I have read the account that Theodore Herzl met with St. Pius X and asked for his blessing for a homeland for the Jєωιѕн people.  The pope's response was that since the Jews rejected the Messiah he in turn wouldn't recognize a homeland for them.  Also at the time of this meeting the state of Israel didn't exist yet.  Wasn't Herzel and his co-religionists considering establishing a Jєωιѕн homeland in Uruguay in the beginning?

Did you read the entire minutes of the meeting when Pope Pius X said he always 'Had Friendly Relations with Jews'?

He also stated IF they came to Palestine, that we would Baptize them.
Does he not recall the failure and mess created BY Forced Baptisms, that led to the current crisis we are now in?  ie Creating MORE Cyrptos and Subverters?

Kenya, Argentina, Birobijan were all considered by Zionists for homing,
Palestine was chosen for its proximity to control the Worlds Oil, and so called religious reasons.  (A farce, as most are agnostic and atheist)

No warnings to the world or his flock, and no condemnations o this Jew aka Hertzl...I find it quite interesting.

The source is Herzl.

Paul VI(6) & JPII(2) are anti-popes-- Pius X is not.

Walt( Basil) has had the Herzl meeting explained to him many times. After the Pope refused to see Herzl, the latter insisted. The pope relented & granted the meeting. At the meeting the Pope said no--- end of story.

John Lennon met Mick Jagger a few times but that doesn't make Jagger a member of the Beatles.

Roscoe appears to be a Philo Semite, there is help for that condition.
Its called reality.

Facts of 'Popes' on Israel and Zionism:


1. Theodor Herzl was the first Zionist leader to understand the political importance of the Catholic Church in the Middle East.
On January 25 Herzl was received by the pope, *Pius X, who told him: "We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem but we could never sanction it. The Jews have not recognized our Lord, therefore we cannot recognize the Jєωιѕн people. If you come to Palestine and settle your people there, we will have churches and priests ready to baptize all of you."

Note: Does this sound Hostile to You? Are alarm bells sounded?
Condemnations to this Anti Christ Jew for his plot o steal Christian lands?




2. This is what Sir Mark *Sykes heard on April 11, 1917, from Msgr. Eugenio Pacelli, undersecretary for extraordinary affairs at the Secretariat of State, and a few days later from Pope *Benedict XV himself.
Following the advice of Sykes, Nahum *Sokolow of the Zionist Executive in London met Msgr. Pacelli on April 29, 1917, and Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Gasparri on May 1, and was received by the pope on May 4, 1917.

Pacelli wanted clear geographical boundaries acceptable to the Vatican to be demarcated, while Gasparri wanted the Church to have a "reserved zone" that would include Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Nazareth, Tiberias, and Jericho. The pope said: "The problem of the holy places is of extraordinary importance for us. The sacred rights must be protected. We will settle this between the Church and the Great Powers. You must respect those rights to their full extent."


3. Zionists were impressed by the positive manner of the Church's representatives. On the basis of Sokolow's reports Dr. Chaim *Weizmann could announce to a Zionist conference in London on May 20, 1917: "We have assurances from the highest Catholic circles that they will favor the establishment of a Jєωιѕн National Home in Palestine and from their religious point of view they see no objections to it and no reason why we should not be good neighbors."


Pope Pius XII wrote 3 encyclicals on the question of the Holy Land. The first one, Auspicia quaedam of May 1, 1948, expressed hope "that the situation in Palestine may at long last be settled justly and thereby concord and peace be also happily established."

In the 2nd, In multiplicibus, of October 24, 1948, the pope said that "it would be opportune to give Jerusalem and its outskirts, where are found so many and such precious memories of the life and death of the Savior, an international character which, in the present circuмstances, seems to offer a better guarantee for the protection of the sanctuaries. It would also be necessary to assure, with international guarantees, both free access to Holy Places scattered throughout Palestine, and the freedom of worship and the respect of customs and religious traditions."

In his 3rd encyclical, In redemptoris nostr, of April 15, 1949, Pope Pius XII advocated giving "to Jerusalem and its surroundings a juridical statute internationally guaranteed" and appealed that all rights of the Catholics "should be preserved inviolate."


There you have it folks...Your Church was taken over LONG ago!!

Roscoe don't feel bad.  I was accused by this person of being a philo-Semite to.  Got banned from his stupid forum after making a few comments for sins against the Catholic faith.  

If you look at his forum I can't see why he calls it Catholic.  There is nothing on there about the Catholic faith.

I have recent  and new stories of the history of ChristMass and Father Coughlin, who vociferously defended Henry Ford, who was accused by a Rabbi of lies/libel/slander,  though Ford was later vindicated.

You wont be able to read them, as youre banned, and so will any other plants or Philo Semites from TraditionalCatholic.Proboards forum

Roscoe don't feel bad.  I was accused by this person of being a philo-Semite to.  Got banned from his stupid forum after making a few comments for sins against the Catholic faith.  

If you look at his forum I can't see why he calls it Catholic.  There is nothing on there about the Catholic faith.

'This person' is has been known on Cathinfo as 'St Basil' and was 'Walt Disney' on the now defunct Freedomportal. He has also accused St Ignatius of being a 'crypto' and has swallowed that 'Black Pope' nonsense.

I have no desire to visit his 'Forum'.

'Walt' has also accused Columbus of being a 'crypto'.

Ive accused many of being Cryptos.

Ive not said definatively that Columbus was, but many Jews ID him as such.
The Inquisition was 1492, and his entire crew was made of Jews.  
He came from an area that was prominately comprised of Cryptos. So one cannot rule it out.  I usually assume one is and work to disprove.

Roscoe is a Philto Semite so he assumes that one is not and works to defend any such accusations.
The world didnt become this way in a generation.
Jews have worked overtime for centuries.

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Paul VI(6) & JPII(2) are anti-popes-- Pius X is not.

Walt( Basil) has had the Herzl meeting explained to him many times. After the Pope refused to see Herzl, the latter insisted. The pope relented & granted the meeting. At the meeting the Pope said no--- end of story.

John Lennon met Mick Jagger a few times but that doesn't make Jagger a member of the Beatles.

Pope pius X didnt just say no.
He say he did not approve of the Zionists plans, and the minutes with Hertzl record as saying he always had good relations with Jews.  

Pope Pius X did not sound the alarm to his flock, as any good Shepherd would, he was  totally derelict in his duty as a Shepherd.
Intentionally or not, the world would be a much better place had he done his duty to sond the alarm, and warn Hertzl in the strongest ways possible, rather than receiving him cordially, when te Jew Hrtzl refused to kiss his ring!!!.


This takes me back to when the Illuminati founder Adam Weishaupt was traveling, and accidentally lost his blueprint for their plots, and their members.  
It was turned into the German/Bavarian authorities, and  subsequently turned into the Church elders, going as high to the Vatican as the Pope.
It was completely disregarded.


'They' have controlled our Church A LONG TIME.

My Source for this is ѕуηαgσgυє OF SATAN by Andrew Hitchcock.



Id love for Roscoe to comment on Rothschild taking over he Vatican Bank and finances in the 1820s.

My comment is that although a couple of Popes were forced to take a loan from Rothschild, this does not mean that they 'took over' the Vatican Bank. The last loan was in 1860. Unless I am mistaken, Vatican never repaid the loan because the Pope had his Papal States stolen by the Alta Vendita--AKA Rothschild.

All vatican finances have been handled by Rothschild since the 1820s. Fact.
And he was never 'paid off'


Michael Hoffman writes:

'The modernist/subversive  Church over the past 500 years has been responsible for the rise of usury: with the  Crypto Medici "charity banks"; through nominalism and Eck’s 5% for the Fuggers; and by means of Benedict XIV’s redefinition of usury through his promulgation of extrinsic title loopholes. Then came the Pius VIII era, which decreed to confessors that usurers were to be absolved and not disturbed.

All of these mortally sinful and heretical abominations were reconfirmed and enlarged by all subsequent papal administrations in the 19th century, culminating in the operation of the Vatican’s own usurious bank and the 1917 Code of Canon Law permitting whatever interest on debt the secular law of the land allows!'