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Änσnymσus

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Re: A poll just for fun
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2025, 10:50:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on August 05, 2025, 09:47:13 PM
    I took people with the ages of 70 or older.  That poll was in 2023, so the 70 year olds would have been born in 1953.  Some 68 or 69 year olds might have a vague memory but not an indepth understanding of what was happening then.  There was no way of telling from the pole how many were 68 or 69.

    By 1961 the first changes of the Mass were already creeping into use.  In Bishop Morrows book "My Catholic Faith" 1961 edition page 304, it already shows the "Offertory Procession" with lay people bringing up the ciborium, water and wine.
    If my math is off I apologize, I'm tired.
    This poll was supposed to be for fun.
    Can you post a picture of this? 
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    Re: A poll just for fun
    « Reply #16 on: August 06, 2025, 02:31:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: AMDG forever on August 05, 2025, 08:50:47 PM
    Croix, you are so pathetically effeminate and extremely immature.
    You copied and pasted this exact insult and posted it on at least two different threads.
    Gee, AMDG forever (other account is Quo vadis Domine), I didn't know that Croix still lives rent-free inside your mind and your wife's mind.  ::)
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    Re: A poll just for fun
    « Reply #17 on: August 06, 2025, 08:35:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: Twenty8 on August 06, 2025, 02:31:21 AM
    You copied and pasted this exact insult and posted it on at least two different threads.
    Gee, AMDG forever (other account is Quo vadis Domine), I didn't know that Croix still lives rent-free inside your mind and your wife's mind.  ::)
    :laugh2:
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    Re: A poll just for fun
    « Reply #18 on: August 06, 2025, 12:25:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on August 05, 2025, 10:50:23 PM
    Can you post a picture of this?



    NOTE:  The collection was taken up before the Gospel to accommodate the procession.
                This 1961 picture can be found here  https://archive.org/details/mycatholicfaith0000reve/mode/2up 

    In the 1963 edition, also on page 304, you'll note the table is now in use with the priest facing the people.  It can be found here
     https://ia902304.us.archive.org/2/items/B-001-014-327/B-001-014-327.pdf

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    Re: A poll just for fun
    « Reply #19 on: August 07, 2025, 08:41:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on August 06, 2025, 12:25:57 PM


    NOTE:  The collection was taken up before the Gospel to accommodate the procession.
                This 1961 picture can be found here  https://archive.org/details/mycatholicfaith0000reve/mode/2up

    In the 1963 edition, also on page 304, you'll note the table is now in use with the priest facing the people.  It can be found here
     https://ia902304.us.archive.org/2/items/B-001-014-327/B-001-014-327.pdf
    Wow...  To be printed in 1963, this must have been planned for quite some time...  Thank you for sharing!
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    Re: A poll just for fun
    « Reply #20 on: August 07, 2025, 01:37:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: AMDGJMJ on August 07, 2025, 08:41:54 AM
    Wow...  To be printed in 1963, this must have been planned for quite some time...  Thank you for sharing!
    The pictured page is actually from the 1961 edition.
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    Re: A poll just for fun
    « Reply #21 on: August 07, 2025, 02:20:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: AMDGJMJ on August 07, 2025, 08:41:54 AM
    Wow...  To be printed in 1963, this must have been planned for quite some time...  Thank you for sharing!
    After the 1962 missal was released, there were a series of "new" missals from 1963, to 1965, etc leading all the way up the new mass in 1969.  The period of 1963-1968 was full of constant change.  Some diocese were more "experimental" than others.  There are many black-n-white pictures, from this period which show the laity walking up the aisle of the Church to "give the offering".  

    The changes in the Church liturgy started in 1963, not in 1969 with the new mass.  
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    Re: A poll just for fun
    « Reply #22 on: August 07, 2025, 02:25:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on August 07, 2025, 02:20:35 PM
    After the 1962 missal was released, there were a series of "new" missals from 1963, to 1965, etc leading all the way up the new mass in 1969.  The period of 1963-1968 was full of constant change.  Some diocese were more "experimental" than others.  There are many black-n-white pictures, from this period which show the laity walking up the aisle of the Church to "give the offering". 

    The changes in the Church liturgy started in 1963, 1961 not in 1969 with the new mass. 
    Did you not see the "Offertory Procession" was introduced in 1961 NOT 1963?
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    Re: A poll just for fun
    « Reply #23 on: August 07, 2025, 03:07:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on August 07, 2025, 02:25:40 PM
    Did you not see the "Offertory Procession" was introduced in 1961 NOT 1963?
    Ok, but this was not part of the 1962 MISSAL, which was my point.
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    « Reply #24 on: August 07, 2025, 10:41:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on August 07, 2025, 03:07:55 PM
    Ok, but this was not part of the 1962 MISSAL, which was my point.
    OK.  I understand, but was it ever part of any missal?
    Would the lay people's offering even be mentioned in a missal? After all it took place on the other side of the Communion rail.   No pre Vat II missal mentions taking up collection.  Neither the procession nor the collection are part of the liturgy.  Actually the procession just substitutes for the credence table.
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