Author Topic: A Moral Question (Read 3469 times)

Änσnymσus · « **on:** May 17, 2015, 06:54:32 PM »

I am throwing a party over the weekend and have visitors coming from out of town. A neighbor who lives across the street and has often invited to these parties recently divorced. She asked if she could bring her new boyfriend who was not the cause of the divorce but she's a divorced woman dating men. She is Novus ordo, we are SSPXers. She texted. Me wife asking for permission to bring the new boyfriend.

What should I say?

We see this friend very seldomly and she has always been morally corrupt, more or less. The marriage that just ended in divorce was her second marriage. You get the picture.

Advice, please.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #1 on:** May 17, 2015, 09:02:13 PM »

I think the usual approach is to let one or the other, but not both together come into your home. There may be others who would tell you that you must not let either even if only one.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #2 on:** May 17, 2015, 11:16:44 PM »

How do you think Our Blessed Mother would handle this situation?

She wouldn't condone but she wouldn't judge either.

Her example would probably make them uncomfortable though

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #3 on:** May 17, 2015, 11:55:49 PM »

You're all kidding, right?

First we have the OP actually having to ask if it's ok for a married woman to bring her boyfriend to his party.
Listen up, OP - I say MARRIED because she's Catholic. She can't be divorced. So we have an disgusting scandal right there. But you go on to say she's always been morally corrupt. Yet you ask what you should do.

Then we have 2 people who answer the OP with namby pamby answers. That NONE of you know how to address this situation is pathetic.

Novus ordo / modern traditional Catholic - what's the difference? You all have the same liberal thinking.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #4 on:** May 18, 2015, 12:08:52 AM »

Asked and answered:

"Bear not the yoke with unbelievers. For what participation hath justice with injustice? Or what fellowship hath light with darkness?" --2 Corinthians 6:14

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #5 on:** May 18, 2015, 03:30:28 PM »

There is a very fine line here for Catholics. We are to be Christ like. He didn't convert by shunning. The OP may not be able to openly try to convert (albeit if only by example) but should thing long and hard on this situation and perhaps consult a priest.

Many people on Cathinfo are in similar situations with family etc everyday.

What was Mary and Joseph's behaviour during those years they lived in Egypt?
They too are to be our models.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #6 on:** May 19, 2015, 11:21:41 AM »

Quote from: Guest

There is a very fine line here for Catholics. We are to be Christ like. He didn't convert by shunning. The OP may not be able to openly try to convert (albeit if only by example) but should thing long and hard on this situation and perhaps consult a priest.

Many people on Cathinfo are in similar situations with family etc everyday.

What was Mary and Joseph's behaviour during those years they lived in Egypt?
They too are to be our models.

'fine line"?!!! You are infected with liberalism. YOU are the one who needs to speak with a priest, good Heavens!

What Catholic needs to think "long and hard" or have to consult with a priest to know that having a twice 'divorced', morally corrupt (in the OP's own words) novus ordo Catholic neighbor over to a family party with HER BOYFRIEND is evil in itself? Why would you invite that contamination to your holy home? to expose your wife, children and others that you love to such in-your-face sinfulness? To be nice? Charitable? You must be a woman to have written such a terrible comment.

Read this. You desperately need to find out why you think the way you do, and root it out. LINK

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #7 on:** May 19, 2015, 11:26:36 AM »

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Modern Liberalism reverses this order. It imposes a false notion of charity; our neighbor first, and, if at all, God afterwards. By its reiterated and trite accusations of intolerance, it has succeeded in disconcerting even some staunch Catholics. But our rule is too plain and to concrete to admit of misconception. It is: Sovereign Catholic inflexibility is sovereign Catholic charity. This charity is practiced in relation to our neighbor when in his own interest, he is crossed, humiliated and chastised. it is practiced in relation to a third party, when he is defended from the unjust aggression of another, as when he is protected from the contagion of error by unmasking its authors and abettors and showing them in their true light as iniquitous and pervert, by holding them up to the contempt, horror and execration of all. It is practiced in relation to God when, for His glory and in His service, it becomes necessary to silence all human considerations, to trample under foot all human (106) respect, to sacrifice all human interests, and even life itself to attain this highest of all ends. All this is Catholic inflexibility and inflexible Catholicity in the practice of that pure love which constitutes sovereign charity. The saints are the types of this unswerving and sovereign fidelity to God, the heroes of charity and religion. Because in our times there are so few true inflexibles in the love of God, so also are there few uncompromisers in the order of charity. Liberal charity is condescending, affectionate, even tender in appearance, but at bottom it is an essential contempt for the true good of men, of the supreme interests of truth and of God. It is human selflove usurping the throne of he Most High and demanding that worship which belongs to God alone.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #8 on:** May 19, 2015, 11:40:39 AM »

My family and I will be travelling cross country later this week to visit relatives. My niece has a 14-year-old sodomite step-brother living with her. (I hate to use that term for a young teen, but he's "loud and proud" about it.) He even lists on his Facebook account that he's in a relationship. (Disgusting, I know.) I'll be having a talk with my niece soon that we will not, under any circuмstances, visit her if his "significant other" is there. I refuse to expose my five young children to such garbage. And if she doesn't like it, well, maybe we'll see her five years from now during our next visit. Bottom line: I will not offend God in Heaven just to keep peace on earth.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #9 on:** May 19, 2015, 12:17:13 PM »

What a moment for your children Charlemagne, to hear their father defend their innocence and the 'supreme interests of Truth' with 'inflexible Catholicity', to quote the previous post. Your fidelity and courage will imprint upon them forever.

As a revolting aside, a 14 year old sodomite and proud of it? The Jєωs have created an ultimately depraved world for the goyim.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #10 on:** May 19, 2015, 12:22:22 PM »

Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta

What a moment for your children Charlemagne, to hear their father defend their innocence and the 'supreme interests of Truth' with 'inflexible Catholicity', to quote the previous post. Your fidelity and courage will imprint upon them forever.

As a revolting aside, a 14 year old sodomite and proud of it? The Jєωs have created an ultimately depraved world for the goyim.

Thank you for those kind words. Regarding her step-brother, you wouldn't believe his Facebook page. It's about as flamboyant as it can be. Disgusting and sad at the same time.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #11 on:** May 19, 2015, 01:08:49 PM »

Not so much kind, Charlemagne, just an objective observation of a Catholic man overcoming the temptation of human respect for the sake of his children and the honor of his Savior. Quite rare, as exemplified in a few comments here.

OP, protect your family from scandal and loss of innocence by being unnecessarily exposed to your neighbor's complete corruption of marriage and family. If you feel the need to help this woman, ask a priest to visit her, and maybe you and your wife can offer a novena for her, or include her in your rosary petitions. Don't sacrifice your family's holiness on the altar of so-called niceness or worse yet, what I'm hearing in your comment, cowardice in not being able to tell her no, and why. Guard your family ruthlessly. It is your primary duty.

BTNYC · « **Reply #12 on:** May 19, 2015, 01:36:48 PM »

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As a revolting aside, a 14 year old sodomite and proud of it? The Jєωs have created an ultimately depraved world for the goyim.

You said it.

I was 14 years old 23 years ago. It's an admittedly subjective guage but I don't think 23 years ago is ancient history. When I was 14 years old nobody, but nobody in my peer group was "gαy." I don't care what your religious or cultural background was, what your parents' political persuasion was - when I was a 14 year old lad, "gαy" was about as insulting an epithet as there was.

Now "open and proud" 14 year old sodomites, as described by Charlemagne, are not at all uncommon. And I'm convinced that one of the biggest catalysts for this lamentable state of goy depravity are gossipy, faggy "social media" cesspools like Mark Zuckerberg's (oy vey!) Facebook. For those of you on it (which I wouldn't recommend), just try going the whole month of June without seeing something rainbow-colored.

Getting back to the OP - Have you tried proseltyzing to this "friend?" If so, at some point one has to shake the dust from one's feet. One of my childhood friends (a Protestant) was the subject of a conversion campaign which I directed in the form of friendly discussions on subjects like Sacred Scripture, and the Church Fathers. At one point I started making some headway, but before long he dug his heels in and converted to an even more radically anti papist sect (he called himself an "Independent Fundamental Baptist," whatever that is). Ironically enough, his marriage fell apart around this time, and, before long he was shacked up with (and engaged to) a married and "divorced" Novus Ordo woman (who, just to make the picture perfect, was also a sacristan at a "charismatic" NO parish. At that point, I had to ask myself what reason there was for me to remain friends with this man - and I came up with nothing. So, I let him know my position, and our thirty-year long friendship ended. I don't regret it. Giving consent to sin by my silence and contributing to such grave outrageous scandal was a price I was not willing to pay for his friendship.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #13 on:** May 19, 2015, 03:08:23 PM »

Quote from: Guest

You're all kidding, right?

First we have the OP actually having to ask if it's ok for a married woman to bring her boyfriend to his party.
Listen up, OP - I say MARRIED because she's Catholic. She can't be divorced. So we have an disgusting scandal right there. But you go on to say she's always been morally corrupt. Yet you ask what you should do.

Then we have 2 people who answer the OP with namby pamby answers. That NONE of you know how to address this situation is pathetic.

Novus ordo / modern traditional Catholic - what's the difference? You all have the same liberal thinking.

Don't hold back, tell the OP the correct course of action.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #14 on:** May 19, 2015, 03:09:47 PM »

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There is a very fine line here for Catholics. We are to be Christ like. He didn't convert by shunning. The OP may not be able to openly try to convert (albeit if only by example) but should thing long and hard on this situation and perhaps consult a priest.

Many people on Cathinfo are in similar situations with family etc everyday.

What was Mary and Joseph's behaviour during those years they lived in Egypt?
They too are to be our models.

The actions taken by the Holy Family while hiding in Egypt is hidden. It is a hidden life. We can't use that as an example because it is hidden.

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