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  • Coming from the Phoenix area, I went to bed, with radio pillow speaker on at 10:30pm.  I listened to KFYI.  At 11:30pm I hear "breaking News".  Now, I heard, and you did too, that the shooting was a t 9:30pm.  I asked myself, so how much time difference is there between AZ and Nevada?  Why did it take an hour? or 2hr? to make it on the radio as breaking news?


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  • Coming from the Phoenix area, I went to bed, with radio pillow speaker on at 10:30pm.  I listened to KFYI.  At 11:30pm I hear "breaking News".  Now, I heard, and you did too, that the shooting was a t 9:30pm.  I asked myself, so how much time difference is there between AZ and Nevada?  Why did it take an hour? or 2hr? to make it on the radio as breaking news?
    https://www.infowars.com/ has many conflicting reports, which indicates the shooting did not take place were it was originally reported, that there were more than one gunman to cause such carnage, that the shooter killed himself, but that the police shot him to death, that ISIS was involved, and that Antifa was the primary motivation in preparation for the November 4, 2017 Communist cινιℓ ωαr.

    The authorities said over CBS news that the police were in crisis mode and did not want rednecks to come into the area bearing guns and cause more problems. Nor did they want rubbernecks to get in the way of cleanup.
    This whole operation smells of fake news, which was generated to take away all guns. Even Hillary claimed that all guns must be banned.
    Yes, real people probably have died as citizens are expendable in the cause of the Antifa Communist Revolution.


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  • Muzzle flashes coming from about the 10th floor?



    PS: YouTube is deleting all the videos people are uploading, so you better watch and download fast.


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  • Questions swirl in the Las Vegas mass shooting
    (To read about Jon's mega-collection, The Matrix Revealed, click here.)
    Questions swirl in the Las Vegas mass shooting
     
    By Jon Rappoport
     
    Sunday night Las Vegas shooting at country music concert. Shooter in a high room at the Mandalay Bay Resort Hotel, a long distance away. Deadliest mass shooting in US history. 518 wounded, 58 dead.
    With the body count and wounded numbers rising, and the concert shooter, Stephen Paddock, dead, here are a few questions:
     
    What weapon was he using? That is important in deciding whether Paddock could, from a significant distance, inflict the reported destruction of life. Or whether, as earlier reports/rumors suggested, there was more than one shooter.

    At least ten weapons were found in the shooter's hotel room. He had checked into the Mandalay Resort Hotel several days earlier. How did he bring in all the weapons? Disassembled? Did he have prior experience with weapons?
     
    In an interview, Paddock's brother said he was absolutely shocked, and his brother, Stephen, was "just a guy." No motive, no reason to go on a rampage. True? False? What turned him into a killer? Had he ever been under psychiatric care? Had he been prescribed, for example, SSRI antidepressants, which are known to push people over the edge, into homicidal violence? If he was "just a guy," did that include significant experience handling weapons? Was he capable of bringing all or some of the weapons into the hotel in pieces and then assembling them?
     
    The Guardian: Paddock's brother said, "He's not an avid gun guy at all. The fact that he had those kind of weapons is just - where the hell did he get automatic weapons? He has no military background or anything like that. He's just a guy who lived in a house in Mesquite, drove down and gambled in Las Vegas. He did stuff. Ate burritos."
     
    Police reports seemed to indicate, at first, that police broke into Paddock's hotel room and killed him. Then the press were told that Paddock committed ѕυιcιdє as the police entered, or before they entered.
     
    For a time, police were searching for Paddock's friend, companion, roommate (?), Marilou Danley. Reports then suggested they had her in custody. But a later report indicated she was overseas, and the police were satisfied she had nothing to do with the shooting. How were the police able to determine that so quickly? Her absence from Las Vegas would not rule out the possibility she was involved in the planning.

     
    Then we have this: "CAIRO, Oct 2 (Reuters) - Islamic State has claimed responsibility for a shooting that killed at least 50 people and wounded over 400 in Las Vegas early on Monday, and said the attacker had converted to Islam a few months ago."
     
    "'The Las Vegas attack was carried out by a soldier of the Islamic State and he carried it out in response to calls to target states of the coalition'," the group's news agency Amaq said in reference to the U.S.-led coalition fighting the group in the Middle East."
     
    "'The Las Vegas attacker converted to Islam a few months ago'," Amaq added.
     
    True? Bogus? An ISIS attempt to take credit for an attack, with which they had no connection?
     
    Earlier this morning, I came across a tweet which I can't locate anymore. It named another Stephen C Paddock, who is 44, who has been convicted of several crimes involving lewd acts on a child and child molestation---11/28/01 (South Carolina), 4/06/94 (Indiana), and 11/09/89 (Indiana). The tweet included what appeared to be a screen shot of an official law-enforcement docuмent, also indicating that this Stephen Paddock had been confined, at one point, in a South Carolina mental institution.
     
    Then there is the story of a concert goer who was warning people before the shooting that they were all "going to die." Who is she? Is she involved?
     
    The Express (UK): "One woman, who was at the Route 91 music event, claimed an unidentified woman had told other concert-goers they were 'all going to die' after pushing her way to the front of the venue...The witness, 21, told local news: 'She had been messing with a lady in front of her and telling her she was going to die, that we were all going to die. They escorted her out to make her stop messing around with all the other people, but none of us knew it was going to be serious'...She [the winess] described the lady as Hispanic. The lady was escorted from the venue along with a man. The unnamed witness, who was attending the event on her 21st birthday, described the pair as short, both around 5 ft 5ins to 5ft 6ins tall, and looked like 'everyday people'."
     
    In every one of these mass attacks, average news consumers assume the police and the media "have the story right," and all remaining questions are "just details that will eventually be worked out."
     
    That's not a wise assumption. It's especially not wise when connected major agendas are on the line: removing guns from all citizens; accelerating militarized police presence in every aspect of daily life; keeping citizens in a state of anxiety, inducing their decision to stay at home behind locked doors and not venture out; reduction of public events of all kinds; degradation of the economy.
     
    Such agendas can result in violent events which are not what they seem to be.

    NoMoreFakeNews.com

    My opinion:   This was done by the deep state to galvanized Public support for further anti gun legislation.
                      According to military experts it was not the Military MR-15 but a stationary machine gun
                      firing at ground level of the hotel.  
                      A video I heard on The Jeff Rense program with Professor Fetzer and a retired Marine Corp
                      Officer that the sounds of the firings was not from a MR-15 but a stationary mounted
                     machine gun. The sounds of the gun firing than it was quiet and begin firing again, the clip
                    being reloaded.
                  





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  • Questions swirl in the Las Vegas mass shooting
    (To read about Jon's mega-collection, The Matrix Revealed, click here.)
    Questions swirl in the Las Vegas mass shooting
     
    By Jon Rappoport
     
    Sunday night Las Vegas shooting at country music concert. Shooter in a high room at the Mandalay Bay Resort Hotel, a long distance away. Deadliest mass shooting in US history. 518 wounded, 58 dead.
    With the body count and wounded numbers rising, and the concert shooter, Stephen Paddock, dead, here are a few questions:
     
    What weapon was he using? That is important in deciding whether Paddock could, from a significant distance, inflict the reported destruction of life. Or whether, as earlier reports/rumors suggested, there was more than one shooter.

    At least ten weapons were found in the shooter's hotel room. He had checked into the Mandalay Resort Hotel several days earlier. How did he bring in all the weapons? Disassembled? Did he have prior experience with weapons?
     
    In an interview, Paddock's brother said he was absolutely shocked, and his brother, Stephen, was "just a guy." No motive, no reason to go on a rampage. True? False? What turned him into a killer? Had he ever been under psychiatric care? Had he been prescribed, for example, SSRI antidepressants, which are known to push people over the edge, into homicidal violence? If he was "just a guy," did that include significant experience handling weapons? Was he capable of bringing all or some of the weapons into the hotel in pieces and then assembling them?
     
    The Guardian: Paddock's brother said, "He's not an avid gun guy at all. The fact that he had those kind of weapons is just - where the hell did he get automatic weapons? He has no military background or anything like that. He's just a guy who lived in a house in Mesquite, drove down and gambled in Las Vegas. He did stuff. Ate burritos."
     
    Police reports seemed to indicate, at first, that police broke into Paddock's hotel room and killed him. Then the press were told that Paddock committed ѕυιcιdє as the police entered, or before they entered.
     
    For a time, police were searching for Paddock's friend, companion, roommate (?), Marilou Danley. Reports then suggested they had her in custody. But a later report indicated she was overseas, and the police were satisfied she had nothing to do with the shooting. How were the police able to determine that so quickly? Her absence from Las Vegas would not rule out the possibility she was involved in the planning.

     
    Then we have this: "CAIRO, Oct 2 (Reuters) - Islamic State has claimed responsibility for a shooting that killed at least 50 people and wounded over 400 in Las Vegas early on Monday, and said the attacker had converted to Islam a few months ago."
     
    "'The Las Vegas attack was carried out by a soldier of the Islamic State and he carried it out in response to calls to target states of the coalition'," the group's news agency Amaq said in reference to the U.S.-led coalition fighting the group in the Middle East."
     
    "'The Las Vegas attacker converted to Islam a few months ago'," Amaq added.
     
    True? Bogus? An ISIS attempt to take credit for an attack, with which they had no connection?
     
    Earlier this morning, I came across a tweet which I can't locate anymore. It named another Stephen C Paddock, who is 44, who has been convicted of several crimes involving lewd acts on a child and child molestation---11/28/01 (South Carolina), 4/06/94 (Indiana), and 11/09/89 (Indiana). The tweet included what appeared to be a screen shot of an official law-enforcement docuмent, also indicating that this Stephen Paddock had been confined, at one point, in a South Carolina mental institution.
     
    Then there is the story of a concert goer who was warning people before the shooting that they were all "going to die." Who is she? Is she involved?
     
    The Express (UK): "One woman, who was at the Route 91 music event, claimed an unidentified woman had told other concert-goers they were 'all going to die' after pushing her way to the front of the venue...The witness, 21, told local news: 'She had been messing with a lady in front of her and telling her she was going to die, that we were all going to die. They escorted her out to make her stop messing around with all the other people, but none of us knew it was going to be serious'...She [the winess] described the lady as Hispanic. The lady was escorted from the venue along with a man. The unnamed witness, who was attending the event on her 21st birthday, described the pair as short, both around 5 ft 5ins to 5ft 6ins tall, and looked like 'everyday people'."
     
    In every one of these mass attacks, average news consumers assume the police and the media "have the story right," and all remaining questions are "just details that will eventually be worked out."
     
    That's not a wise assumption. It's especially not wise when connected major agendas are on the line: removing guns from all citizens; accelerating militarized police presence in every aspect of daily life; keeping citizens in a state of anxiety, inducing their decision to stay at home behind locked doors and not venture out; reduction of public events of all kinds; degradation of the economy.
     
    Such agendas can result in violent events which are not what they seem to be.

    NoMoreFakeNews.com

    My opinion:   This was done by the deep state to galvanized Public support for further anti gun legislation.
                      According to military experts it was not the Military MR-15 but a stationary machine gun
                      firing at ground level of the hotel.  
                      A video I heard on The Jeff Rense program with Professor Fetzer and a retired Marine Corp
                      Officer that the sounds of the firings was not from a MR-15 but a stationary mounted
                     machine gun. The sounds of the gun firing than it was quiet and begin firing again, the clip
                    being reloaded.
                  





    Questions swirl in the Las Vegas mass shooting
    (To read about Jon's mega-collection, The Matrix Revealed, click here.)
    Questions swirl in the Las Vegas mass shooting
     
    By Jon Rappoport
     
    Sunday night Las Vegas shooting at country music concert. Shooter in a high room at the Mandalay Bay Resort Hotel, a long distance away. Deadliest mass shooting in US history. 518 wounded, 58 dead.
    With the body count and wounded numbers rising, and the concert shooter, Stephen Paddock, dead, here are a few questions:
     
    What weapon was he using? That is important in deciding whether Paddock could, from a significant distance, inflict the reported destruction of life. Or whether, as earlier reports/rumors suggested, there was more than one shooter.

    At least ten weapons were found in the shooter's hotel room. He had checked into the Mandalay Resort Hotel several days earlier. How did he bring in all the weapons? Disassembled? Did he have prior experience with weapons?
     
    In an interview, Paddock's brother said he was absolutely shocked, and his brother, Stephen, was "just a guy." No motive, no reason to go on a rampage. True? False? What turned him into a killer? Had he ever been under psychiatric care? Had he been prescribed, for example, SSRI antidepressants, which are known to push people over the edge, into homicidal violence? If he was "just a guy," did that include significant experience handling weapons? Was he capable of bringing all or some of the weapons into the hotel in pieces and then assembling them?
     
    The Guardian: Paddock's brother said, "He's not an avid gun guy at all. The fact that he had those kind of weapons is just - where the hell did he get automatic weapons? He has no military background or anything like that. He's just a guy who lived in a house in Mesquite, drove down and gambled in Las Vegas. He did stuff. Ate burritos."
     
    Police reports seemed to indicate, at first, that police broke into Paddock's hotel room and killed him. Then the press were told that Paddock committed ѕυιcιdє as the police entered, or before they entered.
     
    For a time, police were searching for Paddock's friend, companion, roommate (?), Marilou Danley. Reports then suggested they had her in custody. But a later report indicated she was overseas, and the police were satisfied she had nothing to do with the shooting. How were the police able to determine that so quickly? Her absence from Las Vegas would not rule out the possibility she was involved in the planning.

     
    Then we have this: "CAIRO, Oct 2 (Reuters) - Islamic State has claimed responsibility for a shooting that killed at least 50 people and wounded over 400 in Las Vegas early on Monday, and said the attacker had converted to Islam a few months ago."
     
    "'The Las Vegas attack was carried out by a soldier of the Islamic State and he carried it out in response to calls to target states of the coalition'," the group's news agency Amaq said in reference to the U.S.-led coalition fighting the group in the Middle East."
     
    "'The Las Vegas attacker converted to Islam a few months ago'," Amaq added.
     
    True? Bogus? An ISIS attempt to take credit for an attack, with which they had no connection?
     
    Earlier this morning, I came across a tweet which I can't locate anymore. It named another Stephen C Paddock, who is 44, who has been convicted of several crimes involving lewd acts on a child and child molestation---11/28/01 (South Carolina), 4/06/94 (Indiana), and 11/09/89 (Indiana). The tweet included what appeared to be a screen shot of an official law-enforcement docuмent, also indicating that this Stephen Paddock had been confined, at one point, in a South Carolina mental institution.
     
    Then there is the story of a concert goer who was warning people before the shooting that they were all "going to die." Who is she? Is she involved?
     
    The Express (UK): "One woman, who was at the Route 91 music event, claimed an unidentified woman had told other concert-goers they were 'all going to die' after pushing her way to the front of the venue...The witness, 21, told local news: 'She had been messing with a lady in front of her and telling her she was going to die, that we were all going to die. They escorted her out to make her stop messing around with all the other people, but none of us knew it was going to be serious'...She [the winess] described the lady as Hispanic. The lady was escorted from the venue along with a man. The unnamed witness, who was attending the event on her 21st birthday, described the pair as short, both around 5 ft 5ins to 5ft 6ins tall, and looked like 'everyday people'."
     
    In every one of these mass attacks, average news consumers assume the police and the media "have the story right," and all remaining questions are "just details that will eventually be worked out."
     
    That's not a wise assumption. It's especially not wise when connected major agendas are on the line: removing guns from all citizens; accelerating militarized police presence in every aspect of daily life; keeping citizens in a state of anxiety, inducing their decision to stay at home behind locked doors and not venture out; reduction of public events of all kinds; degradation of the economy.
     
    Such agendas can result in violent events which are not what they seem to be.

    NoMoreFakeNews.com

    My opinion:   This was done by the deep state to galvanized Public support for further anti gun legislation.
                      According to military experts it was not the Military MR-15 but a stationary machine gun
                      firing at ground level of the hotel.  
                      A video I heard on The Jeff Rense program with Professor Fetzer and a retired Marine Corp
                      Officer that the sounds of the firings was not from a MR-15 but a stationary mounted
                     machine gun. The sounds of the gun firing than it was quiet and begin firing again, the clip
                    being reloaded.
                  
    I suspect this is another Federally instigated  op. For those who remember the confusion  immediately following the Oklahoma City bombing, with suspicion as I did, there seems to be similarities in getting the "official" story straight by the MSM immediately afterwords.  It's impossible for everybody to be "in the know" when a particular task is executed, hence the confusion.  I can't say precisely what the similarities are, but if there's anybody here who thinks like I do, I think they'll agree. Same goes for 9/11...

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  • What's the point of this? Is it really a surprise that we can trust neither media, princes, nor principalities?

    What is the end of this and things like? What are you going to do about it no matter what the truth of it is?

    There's a reason why statements like "Hi, I'm from the government and I'm here to help you." are longstanding jokes.

    Is there something "... new under the Sun" after all?

    It's like looking at the Devil's dinner the second time around.

    The government lies: check.

    Media lies: check.

    People lie: check.

    D-bags end up running the show: check.

    There is more dirt that there are diamonds: check.

    What? What is it, really?

    I'd like to know who's behind the "NOT ANONYMOUS" box check thing personally. Have them killed.

    j/k
    "Lord, have mercy".

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  • Five Things that does not add up about the Las Vegas mass shooting.

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    https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-five-things-that-just-dont-add-up-about-the-las-vegas-mass-shooting.html#


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  • It's  funny that his brother said he wasn't an avid gun guy but admits his brother owned guns and had at least one long gun when he helped him move. I'm not an avid gun guy. Guess how many guns I own? That's right. None.

    Also it's weird that his family keep repeating he wasn't political or religious. It might be because the media keep asking them those questions. Still even if you're not into those things I think you have an opinion on those things. The family is clearly being deceptive.


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  • Well DZ, I wish I could have better answers to all of your questions, but I think we need to remind ourselves of of who our enemies are here in this veil of tears... but nonetheless, here's something to remind you that your safe.


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  • If our government is that diabolic, why would they need to use actors?  You believe 9/11 was an inside job where our own government killed thousands but now they use actors.  It doesn't make much sense to me. It would make sense if they actually carried out the attack and used some old sucker as a patsy and planted a bunch of guns at his house. But actors? that's dumb. Too many moving parts. Too many people that could blow the whistle.


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  • That means so much, coming from "anonymous" guy.

    I KNOW that none of us are safe. I KNOW how things can change catastrophically literally in an instant.

    This smells more of fear than divine abandonment.  

    I used to be "from the government" and we aren't all psychopaths, you know?

    There's a danger of much injustice and "lack of charity" in this thinking.

    Just what percentage of "the authorities" must be assumed to be monsters for all this to gel?

    How many of you lot have fortune cookied this bit before?

    “Pray, hope, and don't worry. Worry is useless. God is merciful and will hear your prayer.”

    Padre Pio
    Crikey, I even checked that blasted box...

    "anonymous" sucks like hard vacuum at a black hole.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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  • Joe Napoli was in the crowd--Jason goodman had him on his youtube channel tonight. :ready-to-eat:

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  • May their souls and the souls of all the faithful departed rest in peace. Amen.
    :pray: :pray: :pray:

    That's a nice sentiment, but there's a reason why the traditional prayer is as it is.
    "Lord, have mercy".