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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: 35% Workforce Reduction at Major Healthcare Provider
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2024, 06:25:33 AM »
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  • I don't think it would be far-fetched to have a study out there somewhere showing a direct relationship between the size of a company and the dissatisfaction of their workforce.

    OP, prayers that you'll find a new job quickly. :pray:

    I think it varies.  I've been in small companies, where things can get really bad since you only need one or two bad apples to pollute the entire work "culture", whereas in a large corporation it's easier to remain aloof.  Also, it would depend on the structure of an organization.  I currently work for a company that employs somewhere between 5,000-10,000 people, but the people I work with on a daily basis are about a half dozen, with occasional contact with another dozen or so ... so it's almost like a small business within a larger corporate framework.  I was at one small company where a couple of individuals were engaged in adultery/fornication and not really hiding it, making the entire situation toxic.  In a large corporation, you would just ignore these individuals and go off and do your thing without too much interaction with these others, where in a smaller corporation you're constantly engaged with these types.

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    Re: 35% Workforce Reduction at Major Healthcare Provider
    « Reply #31 on: January 12, 2024, 06:29:14 AM »
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  • I think this is good advice.  If for no other reason than to make it much more likely that they will give you a good reference.  Even if they said you don't have to do anything for the next 60 days.

    That won't make any difference in terms of "references".  If his boss isn't assigning him any work, there's no work for him to do.  TPMs have to be assigned to projects.  If he's not assigned to a project, there's no work for him to do.  He may need to transition his projects to others (do some knowledge transfer), but if they're laying off TPMs, they're probably going more to a self-managed (scrum/agile) scenario where the remaining project members will just self-manage, and they already have the requisite knowledge to keep it moving.

    I was actually on 2-3 projects which had a PM on them who was dismissed from the company.  We simply carried on without a Project Manager, since we just filled the gap that was left ourselves.  We know more about the details of what needed to get done, when, etc. than the PM did.

    I think that people are misunderstanding the nature of this work.  It's not like working in a factor or an assembly line or doing other "concrete" work.


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    Re: 35% Workforce Reduction at Major Healthcare Provider
    « Reply #32 on: January 12, 2024, 06:34:27 AM »
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  • That won't make any difference in terms of "references".  If his boss isn't assigning him any work, there's no work for him to do.  TPMs have to be assigned to projects.  If he's not assigned to a project, there's no work for him to do.  He may need to transition his projects to others (do some knowledge transfer), but if they're laying off TPMs, they're probably going more to a self-managed (scrum/agile) scenario where the remaining project members will just self-manage, and they already have the requisite knowledge to keep it moving.

    I was actually on 2-3 projects which had a PM on them who was dismissed from the company.  We simply carried on without a Project Manager, since we just filled the gap that was left ourselves.  We know more about the details of what needed to get done, when, etc. than the PM did.

    I think that people are misunderstanding the nature of this work.  It's not like working in a factor or an assembly line or doing other "concrete" work.
    Then I'll just say that there is probably a decent middle ground between walking in late, leaving early, wasting time during the day and keeping his nose to the grindstone. 

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    Re: 35% Workforce Reduction at Major Healthcare Provider
    « Reply #33 on: January 12, 2024, 06:58:01 AM »
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  • Then I'll just say that there is probably a decent middle ground between walking in late, leaving early, wasting time during the day and keeping his nose to the grindstone.

    Nope.  Even work hours are fluid for exempt employees.  There's no 9 to 5 clock punching.  People here have no understanding of how corporate jobs work.  OP should take advantage of the situation to go to Mass, even if it means arriving "late" to work.  In most corporations don't have a set "start" or "end" time.  Sometimes you start at 6/7 AM and/or leave at 6/7PM, and at other times (by way of comping people for the regular need to work early/late) you can show up at 10/11 and/or leave at 3/4.  If you have a Dr. appointment or some other personal errand to run, etc., you just do it, provided that it doesn't get in the way of meeting that you need to attend.  I love it how people who have no understanding of corporate work environments are rendering these edicts.

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    Re: 35% Workforce Reduction at Major Healthcare Provider
    « Reply #34 on: January 12, 2024, 07:08:11 AM »
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  • OK, Ladislaus.  You are right. But aren't you always? Interesting that even trying to meet you halfway wasn't good enough.

    Btw, I was once a "corporate" employee.


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    Re: 35% Workforce Reduction at Major Healthcare Provider
    « Reply #35 on: January 12, 2024, 07:24:39 AM »
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  • OP here:  I hope this is my last update and please read carefully.

    My job was ELIMINATED.  My job does not exist as of TODAY.  I have no job to do and I have been instructed by my manager and my RTE both to not do any work because my job was eliminated.  There is no work because I have no role anymore.  I am no longer in the org chart.  For those hard of understanding, quit suggesting I continue to go in and perform busy work tasks to look productive.  That is real theft right there.  I am a remote tech worker so there's no office to go and sit in a cubicle for 8 hours twiddling my thumbs.  I have been instructed to not attend any more of my team's meetings because my team no longer exists.  This isn't the IGA where I can just go in and hope they assign me sweeping the parking lot so that the bossman gives me a good reference.  Do you people understand in corporate tech you don't even use references?  The name recognition alone is your reference.  My resume is stacked with Fortune 100 companies and certifications.  I don't use references.  Please get into the 20th century.  One does not simply go become a mortician after investing 30 years in a career that pays $145K a year.  I will get another job because my certifications are highly sought after.  Now that tech is having layoffs, contract work will be more available and I will possibly make a third more in my hourly rate anyway.  

    I'm just letting people know that layoffs are happening in healthcare and it's going to trickle down.  Most of the people my company laid off were NURSES.  Get ready for longer waiting times in hospitals and clinics.  The cause of the RIFs was the federal government is reimbursing less for Medicare 2024.  This will affect many retirees on Medicare because claims are being denied at a higher rate and they are using AI to process and deny the claims.  All the insurance companies are doing it so don't think it's isolated.

    I am being paid for an additional 60 days because that is the law in my state for companies 100+.  We are also a huge government contractor so regulations out the wazzoo.  

    Hope this clears up misconceptions.  It's probably best that people who have no experience in this situation not comment because you embarrass yourself with your ignorance.

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    Re: 35% Workforce Reduction at Major Healthcare Provider
    « Reply #36 on: January 12, 2024, 07:37:54 AM »
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  • OP here:  I hope this is my last update and please read carefully.

    My job was ELIMINATED.  My job does not exist as of TODAY.  I have no job to do and I have been instructed by my manager and my RTE both to not do any work because my job was eliminated.  There is no work because I have no role anymore.  I am no longer in the org chart.  For those hard of understanding, quit suggesting I continue to go in and perform busy work tasks to look productive.  That is real theft right there.  I am a remote tech worker so there's no office to go and sit in a cubicle for 8 hours twiddling my thumbs.  I have been instructed to not attend any more of my team's meetings because my team no longer exists. This isn't the IGA where I can just go in and hope they assign me sweeping the parking lot so that the bossman gives me a good reference.  Do you people understand in corporate tech you don't even use references?  The name recognition alone is your reference.  My resume is stacked with Fortune 100 companies and certifications.  I don't use references.  Please get into the 20th century.  One does not simply go become a mortician after investing 30 years in a career that pays $145K a year.  I will get another job because my certifications are highly sought after.  Now that tech is having layoffs, contract work will be more available and I will possibly make a third more in my hourly rate anyway. 

    I'm just letting people know that layoffs are happening in healthcare and it's going to trickle down.  Most of the people my company laid off were NURSES.  Get ready for longer waiting times in hospitals and clinics.  The cause of the RIFs was the federal government is reimbursing less for Medicare 2024.  This will affect many retirees on Medicare because claims are being denied at a higher rate and they are using AI to process and deny the claims.  All the insurance companies are doing it so don't think it's isolated.

    I am being paid for an additional 60 days because that is the law in my state for companies 100+.  We are also a huge government contractor so regulations out the wazzoo. 

    Hope this clears up misconceptions.  It's probably best that people who have no experience in this situation not comment because you embarrass yourself with your ignorance.
    It sure has.  I'm sorry I tried to offer you support/guidance.

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    Re: 35% Workforce Reduction at Major Healthcare Provider
    « Reply #37 on: January 12, 2024, 07:47:34 AM »
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  • OP here:  I hope this is my last update and please read carefully.

    It's probably best that people who have no experience in this situation not comment because you embarrass yourself with your ignorance.


    Was this really necessary? :facepalm:
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: 35% Workforce Reduction at Major Healthcare Provider
    « Reply #38 on: January 12, 2024, 07:48:01 AM »
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  • Was this really necessary? :facepalm:
    In this case, yes.

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    Re: 35% Workforce Reduction at Major Healthcare Provider
    « Reply #39 on: January 12, 2024, 08:03:44 AM »
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  • OP here:  My position has been eliminated and I received my 60 day notice.  I will receive severance + bonus and job search assistance.  It's a group Zoom firing.  They said it's because they want to keep profits high.  I'm totally disgusted.
    I am sorry to hear this.  It’s happening everywhere in every industry.  

    It is disgusting when employers put profit over people.  It is heartless to fire people in zoom.  

    I remember when it happened to me years ago.  I took it personally.  Know it’s not you and something better is coming for you.  



    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: 35% Workforce Reduction at Major Healthcare Provider
    « Reply #40 on: January 12, 2024, 08:05:08 AM »
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    I think this is good advice.  If for no other reason than to make it much more likely that they will give you a good reference.  Even if they said you don't have to do anything for the next 60 days.
    The 60 days notice is a benefit to the employee so they have time to find another job.  With bigger companies, internal HR often helps you job hunt within the company.  

    Typically, there is some expectation that the employee will docuмent processes that are important, that must be done even when he's gone.  Outside of this, the expectation from the employer is that the fired person will be spending the 60 days job hunting.

    I've been through this multiple times.


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    « Reply #41 on: January 12, 2024, 08:10:14 AM »
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    I'm just letting people know that layoffs are happening in healthcare and it's going to trickle down.
    Thanks.  I'm also in healthcare and there's a wave of RIFs going on for these last 3 days, each one under 100 people, so they don't have to report it.  In the grand scheme of things, 300 people being let go is small, considering Oct/Nov were the major downsizing times, with hundreds of people fired and also many too early retirement.


    This type of thing is happening all over the country.

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    « Reply #42 on: January 12, 2024, 08:41:00 AM »
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  • We need to bring back traditional Catholic healthcare with traditional quiet prayer nun nurses and sound faithful Christian doctors.  


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    « Reply #43 on: January 12, 2024, 09:01:10 AM »
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    Re: 35% Workforce Reduction at Major Healthcare Provider
    « Reply #44 on: January 12, 2024, 09:06:43 AM »
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  • Too many good medical staff forced out of medical field for not getting vax. 

    In our area, there are many unqualified people working in the medical field.