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How to use this article -- scroll down to the matching number in the 2nd half of the article, to see how Vatican II (and the post-conciliar popes) contradict Catholic teaching!

PRE-VATICAN II COUNCIL TEACHING

1. Pope Leo XIII

“You are not to be looked upon as holding the true Catholic faith if you do not teach that the faith of Rome is to be held.” (Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (# 13), June 29, 1896)

2. Pope St Pius X

“There is only one human dignity and that is Catholic dignity” (Pope St Pius X quoted by Fr Berto, Abbe Daniel Le Roux, Peter Lovest Thou Me? (Instauratio Press, 1989), p.139).

3. Pope Pius IX

“Condemned: #15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true. Allocution Maxima quidem, June 9, 1862; Damnatio Multiplices inter, June 10, 1851” (Pope Pius IX Syllabus of Modern Errors Appendix to Cuanta Cura, (# 15), December 8, 1864)

4. Pope Leo XII

“It is impossible for the most true God, who is Truth itself, the best, the wisest Provider, and the Rewarder of good men, to approve all sects who profess false teachings which are often inconsistent with one another and contradictory, and to confer eternal salvation on their members… by divine faith we hold one Lord, one faith, one baptism… This is why we profess that there is no salvation outside the Church.” (Pope Leo XII, Ubi Primum (# 14), May 5, 1824)

5. Pope Pius IX
“Also perverse is that shocking theory that it makes no difference to which religion one belongs, a theory greatly at variance even with reason. By means of this theory, those crafty men remove all distinction between virtue and vice, truth and error, honorable and vile action.  They pretend that men can gain eternal salvation by the practice of any religion, as if there could ever be any sharing between justice and iniquity, any collaboration between light and darkness, or any agreement between Christ and Belial.” (Pope Pius IX, Qui Pluribus (# 15), Nov. 9, 1846)

6. Pope Gregory XVI
“From this poisoned source of indifferentism flows that false and absurd, or rather extravagant maxim that liberty of conscience should be established and guaranteed to each man – a most contagious error…” (Pope Gregory XVI, Mirari Vos, (# 14), August. 15, 1832)

6. Pope Pius VII
“Our heart is even more deeply afflicted by a new cause of sorrow which, We admit, torments Us, and gives rise to profound dejection and extreme anguish: it is Article 22 of the Constitution. Not only does it permit the liberty of cults and of conscience, to cite the very terms of the article, but it promises support and protection to this liberty and, moreover, to the ministers of what are terms the cults...This law does more than establish liberty for all cults without distinction, it mingles truth with error and places heretical sects and even Judaism on equal terms with the holy and immaculate Bride of Christ outside which there can be no salvation” (Pope Pius VII, Letter to the Bishop of Troyes, 1814)

7. Pope Pius IX
“From which totally false idea of social government they do not fear to foster that erroneous opinion, most fatal in its effects on the Catholic Church and the salvation of souls, called by Our Predecessor, Gregory XVI, an "insanity,"2 viz., that "liberty of conscience and worship is each man's personal right, which ought to be legally proclaimed and asserted in every rightly constituted society; and that a right resides in the citizens to an absolute liberty, which should be restrained by no authority whether ecclesiastical or civil, whereby they may be able openly and publicly to manifest and declare any of their ideas whatever, either by word of mouth, by the press, or in any other way. But, while they rashly affirm this, they do not think and consider that they are preaching ‘liberty of perdition…’” (Pope Pius IX Quanta Cura, (# 3), December. 8, 1864,)

8. Pope Pius IX

“Certainly such attempts can nowise be approved by Catholics, founded as they are on that false opinion which considers all religions to be more or less good and praiseworthy, since they all in different ways manifest and signify that sense which is inborn in us all, and by which we are led to God and to the obedient acknowledgment of His rule. Not only are those who hold this opinion in error and deceived, but also in distorting the idea of true religion they reject it, and little by little, turn aside to naturalism and atheism, as it is called; from which it clearly follows that one who supports those who hold these theories and attempt to realize them, is altogether abandoning the divinely revealed religion.” (Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos (# 2), January 6, 1928)

9. Pope Leo XIII

“Thus, Gregory XVI in his encyclical letter Mirari Vos, dated August 15, 1832, inveighed with weighty words against the sophisms which even at his time were being publicly inculcated – namely, that no preference should be shown for any particular form of worship; that it is right for individuals to form their own personal judgments about religion; that each man’s conscience is his sole and all-sufficing guide; and that it is lawful for every man to publish his own views, whatever they may be, and even to conspire against the state.” (Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei (# 34), November 1, 1885

10. Pope Pius VIII

“Against these experienced sophists the people must be taught that the profession of the Catholic faith is uniquely true, as the apostle proclaims: one Lord, one faith, one baptism.” (Pope Pius VIII, Traditi Humilitati, (# 4) May 24, 1829)

11. Pope Gregory XVI

“This shameful font of indifferentism gives rise to that absurd and erroneous proposition which claims that liberty of conscience must be maintained for everyone. It spreads ruin in sacred and civil affairs, though some repeat over and over again with the greatest impudence that some advantage accrues to religion from it."But the death of the soul is worse than freedom of error," as Augustine was wont to say” (Pope Gregory XVI, Mirari Vos, (# 14), August 15, 1832)

12. Pope Gregory XVI

“Now We consider another abundant source of the evils with which the Church is afflicted at present: indifferentism. This perverse opinion is spread on all sides by the fraud of the wicked who claim that it is possible to obtain the eternal salvation of the soul by the profession of any kind of religion, as long as morality is maintained. (Pope Gregory, XVI Mirari Vos, (# 13), August 15, 1832)

13. Pope Leo XIII

“And so from what has been said it follows that it is by no means lawful to demand, defend and to grant indiscriminate freedom of thought, writing, teaching and likewise of belief, as if so many rights which nature has given to man” (Pope Leo XIII, Henry Denzinger, Enchiridion Symbolorum, The Sources of Catholic Dogma, B. Herder Book Co.,  Imprimatur 1955, # 1778)

14. Pope Leo XIII

“Again, as all who offer themselves are received whatever may be their form of religion, they thereby teach the great error of this age-that a regard for religion should be held as an indifferent matter, and that all religions are alike. This manner of reasoning is calculated to bring about the ruin of all forms of religion, and especially of the Catholic religion, which, as it is the only one that is true, cannot, without great injustice, be regarded as merely equal to other religions.” (Pope Leo XIII Humanum Genus, (# 16), April 20, 1884)

15. Pope Leo XIII

“About the rights of man as they are called, the people have heard enough, it is time we should hear about the rights of God!” (Pope Leo XIII Tametsi Futura Prospicientibus, (#13), November 1, 1900.)


POST-VATICAN II COUNCIL TEACHING

1. Vatican II Council



“This Vatican synod declares that the human person has a right to religious freedom. This freedom means that all men are to be immune from coercion on the part of individuals or of social groups and of any human power, in such wise that in matters religious no one is to be forced to act in a manner contrary to his own beliefs, whether alone or in association with others within due limits” (Vatican II Council, Dignitatis humanae (# 2), December 7, 1965)





2. Vatican II Council



“The council further declares that the right to religious freedom has its foundation in the very dignity of the human person as this dignity is known through the revealed word of God and by reason itself. This right of the human person to religious freedom is to be recognized in the constitutional law whereby society is governed and thus it is to become a civil right.” (Vatican II Council, Dignitatis humanae (# 2), December 7, 1965)









3. Pope John Paul II



“As was said earlier, freedom of conscience and of religion, including the aforementioned elements, is a primary and inalienable right of the human person” (Pope John Paul II, On the Value and Context of the Freedom of Conscience and Religion, Message given the Eve of the Madrid Conference on European Security and Cooperation, September 1, 1980)







4. Vatican II Council



“The declaration of this Vatican Council on the right of man to religious freedom has its foundation in the dignity of the person, whose exigencies have come to be are fully known to human reason through centuries of experience. What is more, this doctrine of freedom has roots in divine revelation, and for this reason Christians are bound to respect it all the more conscientiously.” (Vatican II Council, Dignitatis humanae (# 9), December 7, 1965)





5. Vatican II Council



“In faithfulness therefore to the truth of the Gospel, the Church is following the way of Christ and the apostles when she recognizes and gives support to the principle of religious freedom as befitting the dignity of man and as being in accord with divine revelation” (Vatican II Council, Dignitatis humanae (# 9), December 7, 1965)















6. Vatican II Council



“In all his activity a man is bound to follow his conscience in order that he may come to God, the end and purpose of life. It follows that he is not to be forced to act in manner contrary to his conscience. Nor, on the other hand, is he to be restrained from acting in accordance with his conscience, especially in matters religious.” (Vatican II Council, Dignitatis Humanae, (# 3), December 7, 1965)





6. Pope John XXIII



“Also among man’s rights is that of being able to worship God in accordance with the right dictates of his own conscience, and to profess his religion both in private and in public.”  (Pope John XXIII, Pacem in terris (# 14), April 11, 1963)

























7. Vatican II Council



“The right to religious freedom is exercised in human society: hence its exercise is subject to certain regulatory norms. In the use of all freedoms the moral principle of personal and social responsibility is to be observed.” (Vatican II Council Dignitatis Humanae, (# 7), December 7, 1965)





























8.  Pope Paul VI



Spoke of “the repeated violations of the sacred right to religious liberty in its various aspects and the absence of an international agreement supporting this right” (Pope Paul VI, Message, December 10, 1973, L’Osservatore Romano, Dec. 20, 1973, p. 3.)























9. Vatican II Council



“In all his activity a man is bound to follow his conscience in order that he may come to God, the end and purpose of life. It follows that he is not to be forced to act in manner contrary to his conscience. Nor, on the other hand, is he to be restrained from acting in accordance with his conscience, especially in matters religious.” (Vatican II Council, Dignitatis Humanae, (# 3), December 7, 1965)













10. Pope Paul VI



“She [the Church] has also affirmed, during Her long history, at the cost of oppression and persecution, freedom for everyone to profess his own religion. No one, She says, is to be restrained from acting, no one is to be forced to act in a manner contrary to his own beliefs… As we said, the Council demanded a true and public religious freedom” (Pope Paul VI, Address, July 9, 1969; L’Osservatore Romano, July 17, 1969, p. 1.)





11. Pope John Paul II



“Obedience to God involves us in respect for the human person and his rights, seen as an expression of the divine will and a requirement of human nature, especially regarding basic freedoms, particularly freedom of religion and conscience” (Pope John Paul II, L’Osservatore Romano, March 4, 1998, p. 6)











12. Pope John Paul II



“Religious freedom therefore constitutes the very heart of human rights. Its inviolability is such that individuals must be recognized as having the right even to change their religion, if their conscience so demands” (Pope John Paul II quoted in Lovest Thou Peter by Michael Matt, The Remnant, February 4, 1999, p. 6)







13. Pope John Paul II



“It is to be hoped that every effort will be made for all believers to profit, not only in theory but also in their daily lives, from freedom of worship, which is one of the significant aspects of human rights…Religious freedom therefore constitutes the very heart of human rights” (John Paull II, L’Osservatore Romano, January 20, 1999, p. 4)







14. Pope John Paul II



“You have the privilege to live in a realm in which the citizens enjoy religious liberty, where men and women are free to worship God according to the dictates of a right conscience. I join with you in thanking God for this situation which corresponds to a universal right for all men” (Pope John Paul II quoted in D C,  June 17, 1984 p. 631)













15. Vatican II Council



“The Church, therefore, by virtue of the Gospel committed to her, proclaims the rights of man” (Vatican II Council, Gaudium et Spes, (# 41). December 7, 1965)








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The alternative is that only the True Religion enjoys the protection of the State. All the laws should facilitate right-ordered living by the members (citizens) thereof, always keeping in mind the true end of men. All that is contrary to both right reason and what God has revealed should be suppressed in the public arena.

Essentially, only that which is true has the right to protection from law, which includes the public practice and propogation (spreading) of the true religion.
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