gladius_veritatis
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Is Abp. Lefebvre [+RIP+] the one who taught you that when all else fails, threaten to tell your opponent's mommy?
| Raw-hide said: | | Reason tells one that if an adult human starts to reason at a level of a 3 year old and is becoming anti-clerical, it would be fitting to tell his mommy on him. |
I guess this would be the case even more if said "three year old", while you were trying to turn the proverbial tables, worked it so the table ended up on top of you, eh?
Perhaps some of your butter knife-wielding, sycophantic friends could give me some lessons? Come to think of it, it didn't go so well for them last night, either. 
I have many good friends who are priests, btw -- all of whom know I speak the truth about the Vipers of Vaudeville.
| Raw-hide said: | | The way you lie and call others liars is seen here. I haven't experienced your alleged cleric friends who are apparently not so confident as to embarrassingly give their names and state their case publicly. They got a stooge to do it for them. Frankly, I think you imagine they are your friends and even imagine they agree with you. You do have a wild imagination as I see from what you write here. |
1. Smear
2. Smear again
3. Seek to Divide and conquer
4. Smear again and again
Considering you seek to hide your own name, I find your comments rather humorous. Get some stones, 'man'.
| Raw-hide said: | | Giving the name of one priest friend and we can verify. Why are your friends afraid? |
Why are you afraid that you cannot get anywhere unless you go tattle to my mommy?
Look, I know you do not have any friends, properly speaking, and that you know nothing of loyalty. That said, you cannot begin to understand why I would not even think of telling someone like you something that you do not deserve or need to know, especially if it touches upon friendships that are dear to me.
While you may feel the need, all snake-oil-salesman-like, to threaten violating the privacy of my mother in order to counteract the effects of getting your ass handed to you, I do not feel the need to violate the privacy of my friends in order to receive their assistance for a struggle wherein I am doing just fine.
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| gladius_veritatis said: | | Look, I know you do not have any friends, properly speaking, and that you know nothing of loyalty. That said, you cannot begin to understand why I would not even think of telling someone like you something that you do not deserve or need to know, especially if it touches upon friendships that are dear to me. |
I see. You would be disloyal to reveal the name of one of your priest-friend's names who can verify what you say. Why would all your priest friends consider it disloyal. Why have they made it known to you that their names must be kept a secret in this regard? They don't want people to know they agree with you, why? They want you to tell it to the world but keep their names out of it, why?
| gladius_veritatis said: | | While you may feel the need, all snake-oil-salesman-like, to threaten violating the privacy of my mother in order to counteract the effects of getting your ass handed to you, I do not feel the need to violate the privacy of my friends in order to receive their assistance for a struggle wherein I am doing just fine. |
Hmmm...."threaten violating the privacy" of your mother with an ordinary postal letter of what she already knows about (according to you), words from her son? What sense does that make? I think she doesn't know largely of what you have been writing here and would be shocked. Tell it to the world but keep it from mother?
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| Posted Oct 21, 2009, 2:01 am |
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gladius_veritatis
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| Robert Rawhide said: | | I see...They want you to tell it to the world but keep their names out of it, why? |
Actually, you don't see -- which is not exactly news. I have not broached the subject of using or not using their names with them, nor will I. We have had our discussions, and we leave it at that. No one asked me to do what I am doing, although many have expressed appreciation that I am doing it.
| Raw-hide said: | | Hmmm...."threaten violating the privacy" of your mother with an ordinary postal letter of what she already knows about (according to you), words from her son? |
Tell us all how a non-SGG-er, who does not even know me, somehow knows, or thinks he can obtain, the name and/or address of my mother.
| Quote: | | I think she doesn't know largely of what you have been writing here and would be shocked. Tell it to the world but keep it from mother? |
I don't really care what someone like you thinks, Raw-hide. Maybe you have been reading too much Freud lately, and are going through some kind of "mother fixation"?
Do you really think any of this is going to help you save your ass or your face, neither of which is looking too good right about now?
Speaking of friends, where is the 'dynamic duo' from last night?
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Yup, the ideal is to continue, but I already told you that your side comments cause delay. You have a bad memory, too. And, you said you wouldn't write any more - I am less than impressed. You fulfill your resolution, and there won't be more of these delays.
You are the one bringing up about your priest-friends, and now when it gets uncomfortable for you to continue with what you started you try to chide me for responding to what you offered! A standard for you, another for others?
Pretty obvious why you won't even comment on why your priest-friends don't want to be associated with what you are doing here. Yes, run from this question.
Also, you said on these forums that you value the advice of your mother, so you should be hopeful your mother sees what you write here. What you do before God, you should not be embarrassed for your mother to know, too, especially when you value her advice.
So, what is behind this "violation of privacy", or is this just another one of your many dishonest statements you have no support for?
Your mother feeling her privacy is violated by a letter with words from her son!
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gladius_veritatis
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| Robert Rawhide said: | | You are the one bringing up about your priest-friends, and now when it gets uncomfortable for you to continue with what you started you try to chide me for responding to what you offered! A standard for you, another for others? |
No, such is your gig, Father. I simply told you that this "astute observation"...
| Quote: | | Pretty obvious why you won't even comment on why your priest-friends don't want to be associated with what you are doing here. Yes, run from this question. |
...isn't even correct. You, all-slimy-'genius'-like, either cannot comprehend my answer, or have chosen to ignore it because it doesn't fit into your latest, pathetic attempt to divide and conquer via serpentine mind games.
It really is starting to look like your friends armed with butter knives (the 'dynamic duo' who carried out their assault with consummate skill) were not, after all, so poorly armed in comparison with yourself.
Yes, run from this answer. 
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| gladius_veritatis said: | | So, I hear JL was -- SHOCKER -- misbehavin' today... ...throwing mock punches at a teacher, making use of the F-bomb, on school property and during school hours, in a statement that sounded an awful lot like a threat to me... |
So, the Vipers of Vaudeville, who keep tabs on what is going on here, made a really stupid decision upon seeing this incident spoken about online.
They fired the teacher involved.
Rather than give him the benefit of the doubt, they just fired him. No investigation, no trial -- straight to sentencing and execution. Rather out of harmony with justice, wouldn't you say? It was extremely stupid on a practical level, too.
The teacher involved was the HS teacher (there is ONE non-Lotarski in the HS), played the organ for The Show, led the boys' Schola, is a virtuous man, a fellow cleric (he is a Sub-deacon who has known the Vipers for close to 30 years), and is of such a kind, mild, and pleasant disposition that there is NO WAY to justify this outrageous action.
Make no mistake: The Vipers of Vaudeville just PROVED, beyond the shadow of a doubt, to ALL men of good will within and/or outside their scurvy-ridden, dilapidated vessel, that they WILL NEVER change anything essential about their operation. They will blow their own legs off with an elephant gun before they willingly and sincerely deal with the DEEP corruption within their own house!
I know this will come as no surprise, but nothing will happen to the wannabe-thug involved. Meanwhile, the good man so ill-treated was fired by an email, wherein he was also told not to come back to the property. SHOCKER!!! LOL!!
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gladius_veritatis
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| Deus Vult said: | | You sir would try to bring down a man who is a father of a large family and who is the sole provider of that family. |
His presence at sgg.org/cult is a menace to the health of the place, although not the only menace. If he goes down, it is because he deserves to go down. He has made his bed. Now, he must lie down upon it. I think I hear "Taps" playing in the background...
Btw, his wife and some of his children are also on the sgg.org/cult payroll. How, pray tell, is he the "sole provider"?
Shall I provide you with the definition of "sole"?
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well the child of his that is on the pay role is an adult and probably has bills of her own. As Mark's wife I am sure she is doing this out of, how did you say? Oh yes fraternal charity but in this case it would be maternal charity, instruct the ignorant.
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| Deus Vult said: | | I truly think you are jealous of Mark and of his family not only for the million dollar salary, you claim he makes, but also that he has a family and a loving wife. |
I never said he makes such a salary, but I can only presume your ability to read and comprehend English is on par with your ability to write it.
I grant that a wife and family are wonderful things. Should God grant me such blessings, I pray that I will not sell them out for a bit of pottage, served at the merciless table of men like the Vipers of Vaudeville.
| Quote: | | That sir you will never have but then again I am just guessing that is why. |
Maybe I will, maybe I will not. Such is for the Almighty to arrange. For my part, I shall praise His adorable designs.
How is it that you are so confident about the future of a man who is 36, strong in body and mind, intelligent and talented beyond your comprehension, etc?
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| Deus Vult said: | | well the child of his that is on the pay role is an adult and probably has bills of her own. |
It is "payroll", and having bills is to be expected.
| Quote: | | As Mark's wife I am sure she is doing this out of, how did you say? Oh yes fraternal charity but in this case it would be maternal charity, instruct the ignorant. |
Should we presume from the text I have placed in bold that you have, albeit unwittingly, just told us which member of the family you are? No matter.
Look, I told ML that I have true sympathy for his plight -- but there isn't a pretty way to get out of this mess and be free of the Vipers of Vaudeville. He cannot save his ass and his face at the same time. They have used and abused the family, and, when it becomes necessary (and they can figure out how to do it), they will discard them. There is no loyalty among thieves. God be with you as this meat-grinder-of-a-situation intensifies.
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| gladius_veritatis said: | FWIW, I never said Mark has ever received a $70K salary - that was Raw-hide's comment. I said the family received $1M or so - which is just doing a little guesstimating. I know some numbers solidly, and the rest flows from the fact that almost the entire family, in one way or another, is (or has been) on the payroll.
It would be a sweet deal, except Bp Dolan and Fr Cekada have run the whole clan ragged in order to operate The Show.
The use/abuse/discard modus operandi of the Vipers of Vaudeville has, in a way, affected the Lotarski family FAR WORSE than any other.
Let us operate with the presumption that, despite being run ragged by the Vipers of Vaudeville, they had only received $500K over the last ten years. Is the intellectual and moral joke-of-a-school somehow justifiable? No. |
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