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Does anyone know the official policy of SSPV regarding their position on associating with SSPX parishioners between 1983 and 1990?
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| Posted Jul 30, 2010, 5:13 pm |
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Elizabeth
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Welcome A Roman Catholic!
The SSPV are famous for NOT having "official policies" in writing.
What happened in 1993?
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| Posted Jul 30, 2010, 6:28 pm |
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Elizabeth asked what happened in 1993. I think you meant 1983. SSPV was founded in 1983. I am trying to solve internal strifes within my family over Sedevancantist beliefs. I began questioning the sacramental validity of my marriage after my marriage failed. I was married by SSPV in 1989. The key factor, according to SSPX, to determine if SSPV was schismatic at the time of my marriage, is the degree of Sedevancantist beliefs held by SSPV prior to my marriage sacrament. I am a member of SSPX Immaculate Heart of Mary Church in St. Paul. My family has strong Sedevacanist beliefs. They recently 'cut off' from me when I raised doubts about the validity of my marriage. Just searching for the truth.
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| Posted Jul 31, 2010, 1:17 pm |
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Hi A Roman Catholic,
I am so sorry for the strife in your family, and most particularly about them cutting you off because of your doubts and questions concerning a sacrament.
This is yet another example of the schismatic and cult-like mentality of SSPV. I remember how shocked I was to see so MANY failed marriages around SSPV at first!
The ruined marriages are not surprising when one considers the example set by the SSPV clergy.
But just look at their example: Break-ups, splits, locking each other out of the Rectory, expelling people out of spite, stealing property, numerous lawsuits.
Their moral example is exactly like drunken parents continuously in the middle of a nasty divorce and custody battle. They blame everybody but themselves for the ruin in their wake.
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| Posted Jul 31, 2010, 4:28 pm |
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| MyrnaM said: |
Has nothing to do with the problems of SSPV, at all. |
Can you explain this a little?
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| Posted Jul 31, 2010, 4:31 pm |
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Sounds like you already know all the problems with SSPV Elizabeth.
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| Posted Jul 31, 2010, 4:39 pm |
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MyrnaM, your reply is the reason why my family stopped talking to me. They said I am married 'solely' by the marriage contract, disregarding the sacrament. Here is what I read:
“Christian marriage is a sacrament as well as a contract. Can matrimonial consent be such as to exclude the sacrament and intend only the contract? Christian marriage being essentially a sacrament, any condition made to exclude the sacrament from the contract would nullify the latter. Hence, the moral and canonical aspect of matrimony in the Christian dispensation is necessarily determined by the sacramental character of the marriage contract”.
My family went further stating that I have no right to even question the legitimacy of the sacrament in my marriage case. They concluded "Shame on you" but fail to understand that Catholics have the option to at least request for a marriage dispensation if an impediment appears to have been present at the time of marriage. In my case, it appears that SSPV may have been in schism and therefore didn't have the jurisdiction nor the capacity to administor the Sacrament of Matrimony. So, as I said before, I am searching for SSPV's policies regarding their association with other traditional catholics. Here is what SSPX stated on their web site:
It is consequently true that there can be some theological discussion as to whether sedevacantists are formally schismatic or not. The answer to this depends on the degree of sedevacantism. There are radical sedevacantists that call us heretics since we are in communion with a heretic (Wotyla), so they say. These are certainly schismatic, for they clearly reject communion with true Catholics, who are in no way modernist. By making their sedevacantism a quasi-article of faith they certainly fall into the second category of persons that canon 1325, §2 declares to be schismatic: "He is a schismatic who rejects communion with members of the Church subject to him (i.e., the Sovereign Pontiff)." It is consequently by their refusal to be a part of the Church, and effectively making the "church" as they see it consist only in sedevacantists that they are certainly schismatic.
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