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gladius_veritatis
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| Adam said: | | We have a Traditional Anglican Communion priest and an extremely traditional Anglican parish about 20 minutes from my house that I never knew about. |
This means nothing, Adam. Anglican 'priests' are no more priests than the Laker Girls are priests.
| Quote: | | I have checked them out and they are far more Catholic than the NO Catholics and my only option. They are Anglo-Catholics. |
They are still infinitely removed from the right path and their orders are still null and void. Please see Apostolicae curae by Leo XIII.
| Quote: | | I know probably not everyone will agree with my decision but I would at least like to get the thoughts of fellow trads on this. |
Hopefully NO ONE will agree, as you are making a grave, completely unjustifiable mistake.
| Quote: | | It will be a while before the parish will be set up but once it is they will say Tridentine Masses and Sarum Use. |
So what? You might as well start your own chapel, as you would be as legitimate a minister as the Anglican non-priest.
Look, the external rites of Holy Church are beautiful and holy and necessary, but not in the sense that oxygen is necessary. Although God uses them to give grace, He does not NEED them in order to do so.
Hold fast, forget this absurd plan, and trust in God -- not mere ceremonies.
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| Posted Jul 29, 2010, 8:52 pm |
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MaterDominici
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We have a very large, flourishing Anglican Use church here.
http://www.atonementonline.com/index.php
I know a couple from our Trad chapel who go to Mass there on occassion. So, I watched the video (on the website above) of their Mass (which, I beleive, was written only a few years ago specially for Anglican Use parishes). It is much more like the NO than the Tridentine.
Yes, their church is absolutely beautiful, their Mass is said in Latin, and their priest seems very conservative. But, I wouldn't go to Mass there any sooner than any other NO.
If they're really intending to offer a Tridentine Mass there, figure out what priest will be celebrating as there might be a slim chance it would be someone other than the former Anglican.
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| Posted Jul 29, 2010, 9:02 pm |
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Telesphorus
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| Adam said: | | gladius_veritatis said: |
So what? You might as well start your own chapel, as you would be as legitimate a minister as the Anglican non-priest.
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Thank you for your response.
I'll read the Papal bull.
But, will these Anglican priests be "re-ordained" once they become "Anglican Use" in the Church? I assume the "Anglican Use" parishes are valid?
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Anglican orders are invalid. So there's no "re-ordination."
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| Posted Jul 29, 2010, 10:28 pm |
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CathMomof7
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| MaterDominici said: | | The Anglican Use is just one more thing getting Catholics familiar to the "everything goes" mentality. These Anglicans want to convert to Catholicism but want to keep the look/feel of Anglicanism. What they need is a true Tridentine Mass, not yet another version of the NO. |
These are my feelings as well. I've had the discussion with a convert through the Episcopal Church about the problems I am having with this whole "Anglican Ordinariate". I find it all very disturbing. My first question was in regards to the priests. Since we know that all Anglican ministers are not priests, that their orders are not valid, what is the process for them? How will they be ordained? Will they be allowed to "fast track", as many call it, or will they have to go through the same process as all other seminarians? Are provisions being made for the married men who want to become priests? What happens to the congregation of people who are "following" their minister? It all seems a bit fishy to me. It seems that, in my uninformed mind, that people should become Catholic converts individually. That would also include former ministers of any denomination. I also believe that in the past if a man was already married, he would be excluded from the priesthood, unless there were special circumstances. I mean if a priest is married to the Church, how can he be married to a living woman? Wouldn't that be bigamy? It's not a joke, I really see it that way. I think this whole thing is just a way to ease the whole Catholic Church into a married priesthood. Just my thoughts....
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| Posted Jul 30, 2010, 2:39 pm |
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