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As I pointed out earlier, now that Belloc has us both on hide we can talk about him all we want.

I was thinking he reminds me of a horse we once had. We tethered her in the yard to graze but she got the rope wrapped around her front fetlock and tipped herself over. There she was lying on the ground, struggling to get up and digging that rope in tighter.

So I laid down next to her and released the rope over her hoof then rolled as fast as I could away from her. I knew she would lunge to get up and probably trample me in the process if I didn't get out of there. So I got out of there.

I think Belloc has gotten tangled in the good things and is lunging to escape. What do you think.

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I think-and i read your post-that you are a cultist and americanist.....

I escape from nothing, as it is you that act all tradie but have no Catholic mindset---now, back to hiding in the Spokane compound....

i want to work for a Catholic America, you embrace americanism.try FE, they would love your act there.

calling me an embcile when it is obvious you buy into the amricanist propaganda while I study solid pre-V2 Catholic teaching is obvious...your horse, funny....

yes, I would like to escape error.sadly it is re-enforced by fake Catholic trads, hard to do-as we cannot depend on the NO crowd, apparently not all trads either...

you have a lot of sympathy and "lets all get along" for everyone, including the Freemasonic USA, but not B16..that is truly sad...

sorry, but you called me an insult, I call you and Myrna a americanist heretics....even Steven....oh, and CMRI is shaping up in my mind to be a cult...sad, had hopes for it...

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talking about someone is not too Christian-put that in your pipe next time you plead for prayers and understanding....a fake humility, odd but we had a sermon on that this Sunday...those that act humble and are not really,scratch the surface and differant story..
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sorry, but you called me an insult, I call you and Myrna a americanist heretics....even Steven....oh, and CMRI is shaping up in my mind to be a cult...sad, had hopes for it...

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[b]Belloc,
If there was ever a trad group thats not a cult, its CMRI. They went thru the cult era with Schukardt.
Like many, you are stuck on judging and condeming. We really need to be careful what comes out of our mouth via the computor.[/b] :smirk:

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No use in arguing with him, Emerentiana. He is determined to re-invent the wheel and he's not going to let anything get in his way.

When he is done and has reached the same conclusions we have, he will also, sadly, be at the end of his life, as we are.

I thought we were on hide and safe.

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Come to think of it, Belloc would probably love Schukardt, he didn't care for flags either, or America in general.

:pray:Thank you God for sparing me Schukardt, I was living in Calif. and didn't have to deal with him and before too long he was gone. :pray:
May God have mercy on his soul. He brought many people to the truth of things regarding the Church issues at that time, and if the promise in the Bible holds true, he saved his soul anyway. The promise that if we bring one person to the truth our place in Heaven is guaranteed.
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That's one of the things you can say for Belloc. One thing I noticed is that he is not luke warm.

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As for what he has said about CMRI, I would paraphrase Jesus "If I have spoken wrongly, bear witness to the wrong, but if I have spoke rightly, why do you hide me?

Can't do it, though, because I'm on hide.

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sorry, but you called me an insult, I call you and Myrna a americanist heretics...


I have often wondered if there is any heresy involved with those who are neo-cons and super-duper American patriots.  I think there might be an implicit acceptance of separation of Church and state there.  Also some of them think Jews are still the chosen people.  Yes, I heard someone say this in a SEDEVACANTIST Church, that God does not renege on His promises, hinting that Israel has God's favor.  Unbelievable. 

The CMRI, far from being a cult, let you think what you want.  That is the problem.  A lot of people think wrong and need to be corrected.  But CMRI kind of plays it both ways -- they are patriotic, but at the same time they link to Droleskey's site, who calls America "Sad Land of Freemasonry," and talks about the reign of Christ the King.  I know that Bp. Pivarunas doesn't agree with Droleskey so it is interesting that he exposes the CMRI faithful to him.

Belloc, don't run away from everyone who disagrees with you.  I know a woman at CMRI who was very patriotic like Myrna.  I became a home aloner for a while, and by the time I got back, she had woken up to what America really is.  I was not expecting that -- I had written her off and mistrusted her.  She even said to me "I am starting to hate this country."  So never give up hope.

This woman knew Abp. Lefebvre personally in the 1980's, by the way.  She told me a story about Abp. Lefebvre getting up in front of a crowd of American SSPX-ers and saying "Ze monarchy is ze best form of government..."  She said the crowd murmured and groaned, ha ha.
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Yes, it is sad but true. People who hear you speak of the heresy of Americanism think you "hate America." So, I suppose the pontiffs who wrote of this heresy hated America? Nonsense. If someone can point out to me where this country ever acted in a Catholic Manner, (and I am not talking about when it was French or Spanish or Portugese territory) I would be surprised. I am talking about the America that pushed those Catholic Countries out. I am talking about the America that the Wasp's and their liberal Catholic friends started. To me, the best thing I can do for love of country is to pray that indeed the Great Monarch does bring her on her knees before Christ the King. And, I think prophecy shows that will happen doesn't it Raoul?

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