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Offline Maria Auxiliadora

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SSPX "ON THEIR WAY HOME" AGREEMENT FINAL.
« on: February 25, 2017, 07:09:19 AM »
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    « Reply #1 on: February 25, 2017, 07:39:49 AM »
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    Society of Saint Pius X "On Their Way Home " - the Prelature Headquarters to be on Esquiline Hill?

    (Rome) The agreement between the Holy See and the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X is final. The role of Pope Francis is decisive. This is reported by the Vaticanist Matteo Matzuzzi in today's edition of Il Foglio.

    "The rift between the Priestly Society of St. Pius X (Lefebvrian) and the Holy See is immediately about to be repaired," says Matzuzzi. Evidence that the "complex negotiations" are moving towards a "positive solution" are the intentions of the Society to buy the Santa Maria Immacolata building complex on the Esquiline, one of the seven hills of Rome. The complex is located close to the Lateran. The large neo-gothic church was built for an order at the end of the 19th century. This included other buildings that were used as a school in recent years.

    The study center is to be built near the Lateran

    According to Il Foglio, there will be a study center of the Society and additionally the General House of Personal Prelature, as soon as the Society is recognized as such by the Holy See.

    The approach by Pope Francis himself has accelerated. In January on the 17-20 Bernard Fellay, the Superior General of the Society, was quartered in Santa Marta in the Vatican. With him, Monsignor Alfonso de Galarreta and the Assistant General, Father Alain Nely, had come to Rome. At the talks, the Superior of the Sisters of the Society also took part. Father Nely is commissioned to complete the purchase at Esquiline.

    The Society has had contacts, as Monsignor Fellay confirms, in Argentina with the then primate, Jorge Mario Bergoglio. "He has known us for a long time." If there were problems with a local bishop, one had turned to the primate. He said: "You are, of course, Catholic and not schismatic. I'll help you." He did.

    That has to do with the laws of Argentina. The Latin country gives Catholic priests a residence permit only if there is an official confirmation from local church representatives that the priests are officially recognized. In this respect, in a single case (individual cases), there were interventions by Archbishop Bergoglio, who issued this confirmation for the Argentine state.

    The fact that things had not already come to an agreement with Rome in 2012 led Matzuzzi to the resistance of the French part in the Society. Had it been up to the German District, the Society would already have "returned to communion with Rome".

    "Fellay now seems ready to go to end the standoff, even at the cost of painful losses among his faithful and priests," says Matzuzzi.

    Text: Giuseppe Nardi
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    « Reply #2 on: February 25, 2017, 10:00:16 AM »
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    Reported by a trad soldier in the field.



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    « Reply #3 on: February 25, 2017, 10:03:47 AM »
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    • Well, Bp. Fellay finally received his 30 pieces of silver!
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    « Reply #4 on: February 25, 2017, 10:17:47 AM »
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    • Can someone translate "We are the World" to latin?
    If might be a good XSPX installation hymn
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    « Reply #5 on: February 25, 2017, 10:33:42 AM »
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    • In hindsight, this is playing-out as we would have expected.

    The whole Novus ordo world will know the "deal" is done, but the SSPX faithful will be the last to get the announcement.



    How telling of HE's character.

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    « Reply #6 on: February 25, 2017, 10:37:23 AM »
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    • The well-known blogger, "Fr Z", posted an article about the new sspx building in Rome.  Someone re-posted the article on the sspx facebook site.  It's sad to see the facebook reactions:

    1.  "I highly doubt this is true.  The society hasn't officially confirmed it yet."
    (Sad.  Total denial of reality and what +Fellay is actually up to.)

    2. "I checked with the 'higher ups' and they didn't confirm it."  
    (You checked with +Fellay directly?  Or you checked with your local priest, who was told to keep quiet?)

    3.  "Even if it's true, and it probably isn't, we'll still stick with tradition."  
    (What if the society changes the meaning of 'tradition'?  They've been doing so for the last 5 yrs.)

    4.  "We really need to stop "promoting rumors" and leave this in the hands of Divine Providence."  (See how the society has halted the brain activity of its members?  Vatican II used 'blind obedience'; the SSPX uses 'divine providence'.  Shocking to see the sheeple-ness and naivety of the faithful.)

    And last, but certainly the best...
    5.  "This is a fake rumor started by the Resistance."  (Ha!  This was commented more than a few times.  Oh, how 'group think' can corrupt the minds of even the smartest individuals.)
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    « Reply #7 on: February 25, 2017, 11:12:17 AM »
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    • I'm surprised "Fr. Z" had time to actually comment. I would've thought he'd be too busy selling coffee mugs and toilet paper and whatever the hell else he sells on his website. Maybe he could introduce a "Bp. Judas Fellay doll." The price? Thirty dollars, of course.
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    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #8 on: February 25, 2017, 11:44:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez
    Can someone translate "We are the World" to latin?
    If might be a good XSPX installation hymn



    It is: "Nos sumus orbis terrae".

    Yeah, sing it SSPX faithful !



    You sat by as your leaders signed-on with the traitors of the Muppet-mass.

    You sold out tradition!  You ARE NOT traditional Catholics!

    In the 21st Century, you and your leaders, collectively stepped on the fumie.



    And may Our Lord hold the SSPX and their faithful in contempt of His Holy religion.


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    « Reply #9 on: February 25, 2017, 11:56:52 AM »
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    I'm surprised "Fr. Z" had time to actually comment. I would've thought he'd be too busy selling coffee mugs and toilet paper and whatever the hell else he sells on his website. Maybe he could introduce a "Bp. Judas Fellay doll." The price? Thirty dollars, of course.


    This one will do:



    Just take some scissors and cut back the front-hairline.

    Price: $39.95 + shipping.

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    « Reply #10 on: February 25, 2017, 04:52:22 PM »
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    Well, Bp. Fellay finally received his 30 pieces of silver!


    Maybe now he can afford to get his implant on the left upper, there.

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    « Reply #11 on: February 25, 2017, 05:12:23 PM »
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    Quote from: josefamenendez

    Can someone translate "We are the World" to latin?
    If might be a good XSPX installation hymn

    It is: "Nos sumus orbis terrae".

    Yeah, sing it SSPX faithful !



    You sat by as your leaders signed-on with the traitors of the Muppet-mass.

    You sold out tradition!  You ARE NOT traditional Catholics!

    In the 21st Century, you and your leaders, collectively stepped on the fumie.



    And may Our Lord hold the SSPX and their faithful in contempt of His Holy religion.


    We are the world. We are the future.

    Nos sumus orbis terrae. Nos sunt in futurum.

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    « Reply #12 on: February 25, 2017, 07:16:26 PM »
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    "Fellay now seems ready to go to end the standoff, even at the cost of painful losses among his faithful and priests," says Matzuzzi.


    WOW.
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    « Reply #13 on: February 25, 2017, 07:26:08 PM »
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    • This must be the 30th time that it's been declared a "done deal".  Sounds like crying wolf anymore.
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    « Reply #14 on: February 25, 2017, 08:03:14 PM »
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    • Yeah, they were probably just faking-us out by buying the Santa Maria Immacolata all'Esquilino ? :thinking:



    I can see it... I know where you're going with this:

    Bp. Fellay will go on retreat, have an awakening, ask all the priests he's expelled to return and join them in true Catholic traditionalism.

    He'll tell Francis to shove it and get his Jєω, Maxie will flip the property for a 20% profit.

    In shame, Wegner, Nely, Pfluger, Rostand ..etc, will check themselves into a monastery for 12 months of mortification.

    Their 620 priests will rejoice and gladly submit to deprogramming classes to get them off neo-tradism.

    Our eight years of "xSPX hell" will be over. It's gonna be great  :smile:



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