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Offline BrJoseph

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Someone wants to debate Matthew of CI
« on: January 08, 2017, 08:25:31 PM »
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  • Please see

    http://www.ecclesiamilitans.com/2017/01/08/the-disingenuity-of-the-owner-of-cathinfo/

    Yes, on behalf of Tony La Rosa!

    His points are valid and cannot be debated with Mathew since Tony is banned. He proposes Mathew grants access to permit a debate to take place, if Mathew is up to it.


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    Someone wants to debate Matthew of CI
    « Reply #1 on: January 08, 2017, 09:18:57 PM »
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  • I have better things to do. I am WAY too busy to debate him right now. I have much bigger, more important fish to fry.

    That invitation didn't apply to each and every man on this planet. It was meant as a general guideline. Debating matters on CathInfo isn't some kind of right -- it's more of a privilege.

    Think about it -- all the CathInfo members would be watching a TV program, with no ability to debate the issue or rebut anything. How is that fair? That's why I said "let's stick to text, here on CathInfo."

    And watch your mouth and your tone, Br. Joseph. You're posting on my forum. For now, at least.

    I banned EM after un-banning him for a while, because he apparently persisted in stirring up a ****storm against Bishop Williamson.

    As the owner and moderator, I have to be prudent about how many "zealots" for certain positions I allow here. If I allow 1 zealot too many, they become the nucleus of a mob mentality -- which could ruin the forum for others. Do you think I want to lose 2 or more "pro Bp. Williamson" members because I allow 1 too many "anti Bp. Williamson" members? That would be a raw deal for me, since I am pro-Bp. Williamson myself.

    I'm the same way with Sedevacantism. Someone who can't rest until the whole forum is converted to Sedevacantism won't last long here either. They will be obsessed, bringing "the empty Chair" into every conceivable topic of discussion, and drive everyone crazy. And frankly, that isn't even good for the Sedevacantists -- considering that none of us, Sede or non-Sede, have had confirmation from Jesus Christ that our position is His favorite one.

    But enough about my moderation style. That is not what is at issue -- quite the contrary. Most people like my moderation style, and that is why CathInfo is the #1 Resistance forum and #1 Trad forum in the English speaking world.

    And I've said this several times before, but I'll say it again: I will allow people to insult me to my face, happily refraining from banning them as soon as you can show me one -- JUST ONE -- forum where that is allowed.

    So far, no one has taken me up on this offer. To the best of my knowledge, if I went on any other forum -- large or small -- and insulted the owner to his face, I would be banned as soon as he saw my post.

    You can't hold me to some unrealistic standard that NO human being adheres to!

    If you insult any proprietor, homeowner, etc. you will be thrown out. That is quite customary in polite, civilized society -- both online and offline "in real life".

    Disagreeing with me is one thing. Brazenly insulting me and showing zero respect and complete insubordination re: my authority as moderator is another matter altogether.

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    Someone wants to debate Matthew of CI
    « Reply #2 on: January 08, 2017, 10:32:32 PM »
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  • Is Tony La Rosa... a retired baseball player ?   :thinking:

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Someone wants to debate Matthew of CI
    « Reply #3 on: January 08, 2017, 10:48:52 PM »
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    Is Tony La Rosa... a retired baseball player ?   :thinking:



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    Someone wants to debate Matthew of CI
    « Reply #4 on: January 09, 2017, 04:00:54 AM »
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    And I've said this several times before, but I'll say it again: I will allow people to insult me to my face, happily refraining from banning them as soon as you can show me one -- JUST ONE -- forum where that is allowed.


    It's pretty sad that you have to even say this at all - more so that you actually do need to say this to other / another trad. There is no other forum owner who would take that, so your challenge is safe lol.

    Passions can run pretty high sometimes but passionate or not, that's still no excuse for not giving the one who owns the forum the respect due him, or don't expect to remain a member if you don't. Simple.  
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


    Offline BrJoseph

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    Someone wants to debate Matthew of CI
    « Reply #5 on: January 09, 2017, 12:01:34 PM »
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  • Tony wants to know where he ”brazenly insulted you and showed zero respect and complete insubordination re: my authority as moderator.”


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    Someone wants to debate Matthew of CI
    « Reply #6 on: January 09, 2017, 01:07:49 PM »
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  •  :sleep: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
     :sleep:

    That's me on this subject.

    Maybe all these laymen will stop writing 13 page papers on why they think the good Bishop is wrong.

     :pray:

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    Someone wants to debate Matthew of CI
    « Reply #7 on: January 09, 2017, 01:37:14 PM »
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  • Whaaaaaaaaa whaaaaaaa whaaaaa.


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    « Reply #8 on: January 09, 2017, 02:24:17 PM »
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  • قامت مريم، ترتيل وفاء جحا و سلام جحا

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    « Reply #9 on: January 09, 2017, 02:41:48 PM »
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  • is he that desperate that he wants to be back when he is not wanted?
    قامت مريم، ترتيل وفاء جحا و سلام جحا

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    Someone wants to debate Matthew of CI
    « Reply #10 on: January 09, 2017, 02:46:24 PM »
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  • Cathinfo is without a doubt the best and most Catholic forum on the web.

    Thank you Matthew


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    « Reply #11 on: January 09, 2017, 02:50:37 PM »
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  • Next time the subject comes up just post this:


    قامت مريم، ترتيل وفاء جحا و سلام جحا

    Offline Matthew

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    « Reply #12 on: January 09, 2017, 03:50:42 PM »
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  • Quote from: BrJoseph
    Tony wants to know where he ”brazenly insulted you and showed zero respect and complete insubordination re: my authority as moderator.”


    In his case, I would point to the very fact he "called me out" as he did, on his blog there.

    Again, let me get this straight --

    He is impugning my integrity, honesty, etc. and calls me out publicly to criticize these things. But he wants me to take time out to have a debate with him about Bishop Williamson? And he wants to be somewhere he obviously isn't welcome?

    He must really be desperate for attention and fame.
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    « Reply #13 on: January 09, 2017, 11:08:47 PM »
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  • E-M probably got a lot of views on his blog when he made PDFs of "The Recusant" in the past;  but then about a year or two ago he stopped doing that so maybe he lost a lot of hits.

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    is he that desperate that he wants to be back when he is not wanted?

    I suspect it's a matter of envy, because he hasn't been able to keep viewers coming to his blog, and he might think that would change if he has some kind of controversy going.

    Maybe he could partner up with TradCatKnight and buy hits from that Indian computer farm he uses?  They could get a quantity discount.

    In the meantime, he's happy to abuse the help of another CI member who doesn't mind acting as his servant/proxy/go-between. Perhaps for free.
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    « Reply #14 on: January 09, 2017, 11:44:41 PM »
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    is he that desperate that he wants to be back when he is not wanted?


    Ignorance became a point of view when Martin Luther posted his thesis.
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