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50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
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Matto said:
I have a question for the flat earthers. I have been thinking about this and it still does not make sense to me. Flat earthers say that when ships or islands or mountains or anything else appears to sink below the horizon it is only an illusion and if you look with a telescope the object can be seen. But does it work the same way with the sun? When the sun seems to sink below the horizon is it also an illusion and if you look for the sun with a telescope, can you see the sun like they say you can see the boats and islands and mountains when they sink below the horizon?


The seeing of objects with a telescope from the ground is just due to the limit of our vision. We don't say they appear to go below the horizon.
This video:
https://youtu.be/IdwIMtz8owI
shows what happens. The the mast of the boat remains at the same level. Which would not happen on a round earth. It would descend. But when you see it with your own eyes from a distance, you might think it does.

As for the sun, since it is high up, there are other factors to consider, but the bottom half goes out because of the law of perspective. Check out the pictures in this video http://flatearthtrads.forumga.net/t87-loi-du-perspective-explique
to see what I am talking about. Basically, it seems that the bottom half of the sun goes beyond your view until all of it goes below the perspective line.

All this of course seems ridiculous if you are not open the the flat earth, but it is totally reasonable when you understand that there is not curvature on the earth.


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mw2016 said:
Croix de Fer said:
What scientific evidence? Please cite the empirical, peer-reviewed journal and study proving the "earth is flat."




The Michelson-Morley Experiment, for starters.


I see nobody has piocked up on this 'proof.' Perhaps you could demonstrate mw2016.

Be careful though, for:

‘Misconceptions about the nature and practice of science abound, and are often held by otherwise respectable practicing scientists themselves. Unfortunately, there are many other misconceptions about science. One of the most common of these concerns the so-called “scientific proofs.” Contrary to popular belief however, there is no such thing as a scientific proof. Proofs exist only in mathematics and logic, not in science. Mathematics and logic are both closed, self-contained systems of propositions, whereas science is empirical and deals with nature as it exists. The primary criterion and standard of evaluation of scientific theory is evidence, not proof. All else equal (such as internal logical consistency and parsimony), scientists [should] prefer theories for which there is more and better evidence to those for which there is less and worse evidence. Proofs are not the currency of science.’ --- Satoshi Kanazawa’s The Scientific Fundamentalist, published on Nov. 16, 2008.

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Croix de Fer said:
Matto said:
I have a question for the flat earthers. I have been thinking about this and it still does not make sense to me. Flat earthers say that when ships or islands or mountains or anything else appears to sink below the horizon it is only an illusion and if you look with a telescope the object can be seen. But does it work the same way with the sun? When the sun seems to sink below the horizon is it also an illusion and if you look for the sun with a telescope, can you see the sun like they say you can see the boats and islands and mountains when they sink below the horizon?


Don't expect a straight answer from them. They never give one, rather they'll post a link to a video and tell you to watch it or they'll post a borderline facetious illustration of a false premise in which they base their arguments. I've wondered if there is some demonic element with this movement. The people say the same things and they're zealous for it.

It's a pattern with these people. I've, also, noticed a lot of them are women, which isn't really a surprise because they're more prone to emotional attachments to falsehoods. This might be indicative of the their personal or home life being unfulfilling in some way, therefore, they compensate by emotionally investing into a sensational theory. This sensational theory is their "husband" or "family". They defend the sensational like they'd (suppose to) defend their child's or husband's character. 


I just want to draw attention to this post. You are really starting to cross a line here, and it is clear you are just trolling. Your questions have been answered, and you are resorting to personal insults, so please get lost.

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