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2Vermont said:
And another excerpt:

"The other is the self-absorbed promethean neopelagianism of those who ultimately trust only in their own powers and feel superior to others because they observe certain rules or remain intransigently faithful to a particular Catholic style from the past. A supposed soundness of doctrine or discipline leads instead to a narcissistic and authoritarian elitism, whereby instead of evangelizing, one analyzes and classifies others, and instead of opening the door to grace, one exhausts his or her energies in inspecting and verifying. In neither case is one really concerned about Jesus Christ or others. These are manifestations of an anthropocentric immanentism. It is impossible to think that a genuine evangelizing thrust could emerge from these adulterated forms of Christianity."



If Francis is means to imply "traditionalists" in this paragraph, there are many things that are incorrect. Without getting into his misunderstanding or misuse of the heresy of the Pelagians, his use of the  term "anthropocentric immanentism" is the very thing that defines a modernist, not one who holds to the Catholic faith.  A man centered religion based on emotions, experience and knowledge that comes from within is the opposite of what traditional Catholics practice.

I have heard hundreds of sermons in person and know of traditional groups that have them aired online. The priests are reaching thousands of souls preaching the Gospel. I have personal knowledge of true Catholic groups and individual Catholics trying to convert souls by teaching the traditional catechism and doing spiritual and corporeal works of mercy as often as they are able and in fact, many make it their mission in life. How many of you have the same story? 

And just what message is the New Church evangelizing?    "Luv?"
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Just so you all know I sooo did not read this all yet. I got the excerpts from another site. I thought it would be a good way to get the ball rolling......

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From the Catechism of the anti-Modernist Pope Pius X: 17 Q: Can the absence of Baptism be supplied in any other way? A: The absence of Baptism can be supplied by martyrdom, which is called Baptism of Blood, or by an act of perfect love of God, or of contrition, along with the desire, at least implicit, of Baptism, and this is called Baptism of Desire.
 

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I skipped to the end and saw this and figured it's all I really needed to see:

Bergoglio said:
I beg the Lord to grant us more politicians—


Did he sign it "666", too?  :facepalm: Maybe this is TOO easy. He had a tweet today asking for suggestions how to pope better. For real. The responses are a bit humourous but mostly foul. So no link. I fear he got the response he wanted.
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The number of the elect is so small - so small - that were we to know how small it is, we should faint away with grief. The number of the elect is so small that were God to assemble them together, He would cry to them, as He did of old, by the mouth of His prophet, "Gather yourselves together, one by one" - one from this province, one from that kingdom. —St. Louis Marie de Montfort

Dear St. Cecelia,
May we also have thanksgiving in our hearts;
turning to God in song and prayer,
to guide us through each day,
striving to do God’s will.

Posted Nov 26, 2013, 11:48 pm
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