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The collapse of social stigma for unwed motherhood, a revolution in our times
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I would rather abortion was socially stigmatised; that unwed pregnant women felt more under pressure not to have abortions, for fear of society's reaction.

Posted Jun 16, 2012, 9:43 am
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Telesphorus said: 
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Today it seems, people are unashamed, and become very angry with anyone who mentions this ominous trend and discusses the real reasons for it.  This liberal, cultural marxist reaction is even being seen among Trads.


You mean everyone who doesn't accept you as his Fearless Leader is a liberal or Marxist?

One redundant post after another about how obvious things are bad -- adultery is bad, feminism is bad, fornication is bad, drunkenness is bad. 

Yeah, everyone gets it.  They would have to, or else they wouldn't be Catholic.  These things are mortal sins ( feminism aside, which is more like a heresy or borderline heresy ).

But what you want is to be seen as some kind of really righteous guy who is MORE against these things than anyone else.  For this purpose, others who are against them are painted as "liberals," because they have a more nuanced and correct view than your Puritan-tinged views. 

You think by fulminating against certain things more it makes you more righteous than others; alas, it only makes you pseudo-righteous like a Pharisee.  The anger of man worketh not the justice of God.

What is the "trend" of approval for out-of-wedlock pregnancies among Trads?  Another phantom of your own invention for you to heroically take up arms against? 

I have not seen a single instance of this "trend" in any sede chapel I've been in.  If I had, I am quite certain everyone there would heartily disapprove of it.  They would try to make the best of it by not chasing the girl out of church with broomsticks, but no one would be happy about it. 






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A general rule is that all my posts before 2011 are dangerous to read. At the time I was nothing short of a frothing Pharisee. Please ignore my old posts against NFP and implicit faith, both of which are true teachings, as well as Fatima and Lucy's later revelations, which I now see are of continuing paramount importance in the history of the Church.

I also apologize for my lack of prudence when speaking about clergy in the past, I didn't know where the line was and often judged intentions instead of actions and words. My deepest apologies to Pius XII especially, who I judged in the harshest light and accused of being a communist infiltrator. This was not intentional slander but my true belief at the time. I still have problems with his pontificate, but no proof of any intentional malice. I even insulted the Church itself by questioning his Holy Week reforms, for which I am, again, bitterly sorry. I also spoke unforgivably about Pius XI, suggesting or saying outright that he was also an infiltrator who was in effect working towards Vatican II.

I also apologize with profoundest regret to Abp. Lefebvre and Bp. Fellay, the nuns who left CMRI, for assuming malign intentions about all or some of them, and for saying the nuns were witches; Father Cekada and the SSPX priest Fr. Boulet for suggesting or saying they were deliberately intellectually dishonest, Bp. Vezelis for spreading a rumor about him that is not verified; I also apologize to Fr. Martin Stepanich, Mgr. Fenton, Father Brian Harrison, Cardinal Newman, De Lugo, Suarez, Erasmus, and anyone else I have forgotten, for saying or suggesting they were heretics and/or infiltrators due to my former errors. I was also very harsh on Dietrich von Hildebrand and Cardinal Gibbons due to my beliefs at the time, however, in their case, there was reason for concern, I just would not call them heretics, perhaps some of their ideas would have the theological note of "ill-sounding." During all this time, I was under the influence of major scruples, probably without even knowing what that meant, and had a distorted, extreme view of the Crisis.

Posted Jun 17, 2012, 4:55 am
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How about dropping it at this point, Raoul?
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This Conciliar Church is, therefore, not Catholic. To whatever extent Pope, Bishops, priests, or the faithful adhere to this new church, they separate themselves from the Catholic Church.” -Abp. Lefebvre

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