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Neil Obstat said:
Isn't it rather obvious that if abortion and contraception had been rampant
in the days of St. Thomas as they are now, that he would have had a few
adjustments to make in his writings??

How many women today would carry their baby to term if it meant that
they would face execution for adultery?

Get real.


Neil, this is a matter of principle.  I've never argued there should be a civil death penalty for adultery.

But for Trads (particularly Trad women!) in this society, where such sins require just a trip to confession and a few Our Fathers and hail Mary's until they repeat the process next week, even the theoretical possibility of a woman being executed for adultery is unthinkable for them.

And it should also be mentioned, that in this society, women are not punished for adultery, on the contrary, an adulterous woman can take a man's children from him, and force him to pay for their support while she continues her adultery.  That is insanity.
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Which is this Church for him? The Conciliar Church, this is clear."

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Posted Jun 17, 2012, 7:23 am
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Sigismund said:
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Sigismund said:
Why is that not certain, or at least possible?


It is certain.  I've already quoted St. Thomas about it.


Thomas was a saint, not a pope speaking infallibly. 


No, but he says that it's certain.

There is no doubt the Church has approved of capital punishment for adultery in the past.
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Which is this Church for him? The Conciliar Church, this is clear."

-Archbishop Lefebvre

Posted Jun 17, 2012, 7:28 am
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Telesphorus said:
Neil Obstat said:
Isn't it rather obvious that if abortion and contraception had been rampant
in the days of St. Thomas as they are now, that he would have had a few
adjustments to make in his writings??

How many women today would carry their baby to term if it meant that
they would face execution for adultery?

Get real.


Neil, this is a matter of principle.  I've never argued there should be a civil death penalty for adultery.

But for Trads (particularly Trad women!) in this society, where such sins require just a trip to confession and a few Our Fathers and hail Mary's until they repeat the process next week, even the theoretical possibility of a woman being executed for adultery is unthinkable for them.

And it should also be mentioned, that in this society, women are not punished for adultery, on the contrary, an adulterous woman can take a man's children from him, and force him to pay for their support while she continues her adultery.  That is insanity.
so you do agree that a woman should be executed for commiting adultery?

Posted Jun 17, 2012, 12:11 pm
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