Klaus
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Someone said that the reason sedevacantists don't hold a conclave is that they are waiting for a miracle. This seems very strange, and to owe more to Pentecostalism than Catholicism.
If there are X number of sedevacantist bishops in the world, and no more, surely those bishops have a duty to organise to appoint a successor to whoever they believe the last bishop of Rome was? If the Soviets had nuked St Peter's during Vatican II, taking out all the cardinals and left only a handful of bishops, are we saying that the remaining bishops would have sat on their hands and waited for a miracle, rather than organising to appoint a new pope?
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| Posted May 22, 2012, 2:35 pm |
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Telesphorus
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| Klaus said: | | Someone said that the reason sedevacantists don't hold a conclave is that they are waiting for a miracle. This seems very strange, and to owe more to Pentecostalism than Catholicism. |
There's nothing strange about it. To have a conclave there must be the proper conditions to hold a conclave. There must be more understanding and acknowledgement of the problem, and less confusion. The conditions must be right.
It's not strange to believe in miracles. It is strange to believe a Pope can be Pope and publicly deny them.
| Quote: | | If there are X number of sedevacantist bishops in the world, and no more, surely those bishops have a duty to organise to appoint a successor to whoever they believe the last bishop of Rome was? If the Soviets had nuked St Peter's during Vatican II, taking out all the cardinals and left only a handful of bishops, are we saying that the remaining bishops would have sat on their hands and waited for a miracle, rather than organising to appoint a new pope? |
They don't have any duty to do what is not in their power.
Benedict XVI must be the Pope because sedes bishops at this time do not believe they have authority to call a conclave.
Pure nonsense and sophistry.
Being Pope depends on not being manifestly a heretic.
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-Archbishop Lefebvre
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s2srea
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If you're unable to state those 'conditions' perhaps someone else may? Surely its not that vague.
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| Posted May 22, 2012, 2:50 pm |
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